IanM
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Quoting the New European about Brexit is a bit like quoting Mein Kampf about race relations!
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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chrisd
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I was in the US and they didn't care!
Good to see the SILH has come back to breathe new life into a thread that hardly anyone cared about for 4 weeks 😣
Good to see the SILH has come back to breathe new life into a thread that hardly anyone cared about for 4 weeks 😣
Old Skier
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Strange, spent the long weekend with friends from Germany, they are getting worried about their own political predicament and suggesting that the EU as we know it is living on borrowed time. They also said that it looks like Poland and Hungary might be looking for a way out if they don't get a bigger say in things.
I wonder why the Swiss are getting involved.
Old Skier
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Are you sure your not getting confused with the new housing development going on at the Ashford Jct.
drdel
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Anyone flying out of Alicante will see the Brits are now segregated into their own lane. Do they know something we don't?
To be fair most Americans don't care about anything that happens outside of the US
.I deal with European customers every day and at this point none of them care either. That could change when we know what will happen but until then most of us just keep moving along.
Blue in Munich
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No, he’s just using any news article he can find to try and keep his monumental wind up going. 🙄
Heard plenty of Brits over here in Spain talking about it but not heard a dicky whisper from the locals since just after the vote. Honestly, although the politicians over here speak about it occasionally, the rest of the country don't care.
When you think about it, Spain, Greece and Italy to an extent recently went through major financial meltdowns. Spain had / has(?) huge youth unemployment, terrible housing debt, the Greeks are effectively bankrupt, Italy not far behind. None of those things were talking points down the local cafe or pub in the UK yet would be all encompassing in each of those countries. It is the way of things.
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Deleted member 18121
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Spain, Greece and Italy dont get talked about much because they dont back up the eutopian view of staying in the EU. Only talk about what supports your argument.....pretty sure thats how it works.
Foxholer
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To be fair most Americans don't care about anything that happens outside of the US
...l then most of us just keep moving along.
Probably even outside their State - or maybe County!
They actually don't hear a great deal obout what happens outside USA, unless their armed forces are involved! So pretty understandable really!
drdel
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So the EU has a summit tomorrow. While UK is still a member the PM will be allowed to speak few minutes in a separate room after the current president and then she will be excluded from the dinner. Barnier will then be able to give his spin to the 27 for as long as it takes.
IMO it's not the way mature partners discuss strategy and conduct mutually beneficial planning. Another humiliation is on the cards I feel while Barmier shows what a tough negotiator he is while cementing his future in the EU.
We need to see they have no intention of making any concessions and never had. They have just wasted time.
An emboldened EU centre will hurt Bavaria, Italy, Spain and Greece and the Eastern bloc members may well be courted by Russia.
IMO it's not the way mature partners discuss strategy and conduct mutually beneficial planning. Another humiliation is on the cards I feel while Barmier shows what a tough negotiator he is while cementing his future in the EU.
We need to see they have no intention of making any concessions and never had. They have just wasted time.
An emboldened EU centre will hurt Bavaria, Italy, Spain and Greece and the Eastern bloc members may well be courted by Russia.
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Deleted member 1418
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I can understand where you're coming from but this was the agreement right from the off when it came to Brexit. Only right the EU 27 should discuss Brexit related matters without the UK being present.
Should also be noted though that when I've been representing UK at EU meetings in Brussels and WTO meetings in Geneva (as part of the EU delegation), I've had just as much say on the issues we've been discussing/negotiating as colleagues from other MS.
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woody69
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No they haven't. They have been very clear on what is and isn't acceptable to them from the start. It's not the fault of the EU that the UK Government has been chancing it's luck to try and get something that was never on the table as part of the divorce process.
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User62651
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Yep, if it was Spain leaving, we wouldn't give it much thought here. I've been in Spain and Italy this year and wasn't aware of any Brexit news/chat. I think Brits over there tend to shut up about it too, embarrassed generally.
We always forget the poor Gibraltarians though, dragged out of EU despite a 96% remain vote. Not sure what'll happen at that border wrt daily supplies to the rock from Spain.
I saw an interesting piece last week by the mayor, or equivalent, of Gibraltar. He was pointing out how much business the province of Andalucia does with Gibraltar and whilst Spain and Gibraltar may have a fractious relationship the relationship between Gibraltar and the local govt in Andalucia is very good. Locally, Gibraltar is important to their economy. I have no doubt that is reciprocal but it is always worth remembering that smooth movement is important to both parties.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Erm - No
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/malling/news/mps-fury-at-secret-plans-to-shut-m26-191376/
or will you be denying the truth of this and telling us that it is fake news
Old Skier
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I'm not sure if your right or not but I suppose the fourth lane of a smart motorway (which is what the highway signs indicate) could be used as a lorry park as you can bet your bottom dollar that the public won't use it.
PS: it's been used for days on end previously so it's not something new although I hope they keep it clear on the days I go to Le Touquet next year.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I suggest that it'll involve more than using a fourth lane. But lets not worry about such little things as we charge towards goodness knows what sort of mess - just hope you have your visa sorted for Le Touquet.
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