The Brexit Party splitting the Conservative vote and letting the LibDems in.
BoJo needs to agree a pact with them or the next GE is going to wipe both of them out despite probably winning the percentage vote
Expect most of them voted against the chance to reform our electoral system mind, so not too much sympathy.
Labour guy nearly lost his deposit [In Wales FGS]
Monster Loonies finish in front of UKIP.![]()
The Tories were stupid enough to try to reinflict the tarry fingered expenses swindler who held the seat until he was booted out in a recall just a couple of months ago. Hopefully his career is now over and his constituency will debar him from standing again – it should also serve as a warning to arsewipe Dominic Grieve, if he imagines his unwilling constituents will nod him through again.
Spot on our politicians don’t want to leave we know that!If you are saying that we should be spending the time and money now into sorting out our problems instead of spending it on leaving the EU then 100% agree with you. if you are talking about historical contributions then until the red bus I have never heard any serious politician over the years say that the money we are spending on the EU is stopping us sorting out homelessness, lack of school funding, decline of the manufacturing industy etc etc. Over the year the majority of politicians have thought that that the benfits of being in the EU outweigh any financial contribution we make, and given a free vote now still do. And there is a process to leave, we are the ones that are making such a hash of it.
Govt docs on D+1 day analysis does not make good reading acc to leaked docs from Sky. Thank God it was not on BBC else would have been rubbished as left leaning...
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Spot on our politicians don’t want to leave we know that!
Unfortunately they asked us and we voted to leave.
We had 3 years of a remainer in the PMs job that was a mistake.
Now we have a PM that’s taking a different path and politicians are still trying to stop it.
The politicians are the problem and we all know they do like spending taxpayers money.
I'm not sure that politicians are doing anything about stopping Brexit at the moment as parliament is in recess. The only politicians active are BoJo and his buddies - proclaiming to one and all that they will reach out - they will go the extra mile - the extra one thousand miles - to get a deal. But we will leave on 31/10. Well that's what BoJo said at Faslane.
Except BoJo won't go one inch towards speaking with the EU unless the EU drop the backstop completely. No idea if that is all and any backstop - but not having one at all seems a rather difficult ask for the EU to accede to - and hardly it would seem to reflect a UK doing everything possible to engage with the EU to seek a compromise towards a deal. Strikes me that BoJo has set a rather high hurdle to get over for discussions to even start.
Who knows. Maybe the EU will come to realise that UK leaving without a deal will harm the EU more than it will harm the UK - and that they are wrong in their insistence that maintaining the integrity of the Single Market is more important to the EU and EU business and industry than any economic damage done to the EU. Once the EU start listening to us they'll get it.
Anyway - I suppose that when we leave with No Deal BoJo can claim that he was willing to speak with the EU, but they were inflexible in refusing to meet his quite simple pre-condition for the talks to restart. He might try and persuade us that a No Deal departure on 31/10 was therefore the EU's fault (though why 'fault' as it's going to be great is it not?). But we are not stupid - we know that it will be his choice if we do. And more power to his elbow if all is as ticket-boo as he claims is will be. I'm rather hoping he's right. But I am not so sure.
I would say Jo Swinson of the LD is doing plenty at the moment and is openly defining the will of the people .I'm not sure that politicians are doing anything about stopping Brexit at the moment as parliament is in recess. The only politicians active are BoJo and his buddies - proclaiming to one and all that they will reach out - they will go the extra mile - the extra one thousand miles - to get a deal. But we will leave on 31/10. Well that's what BoJo said at Faslane.
Except BoJo won't go one inch towards speaking with the EU unless the EU drop the backstop completely. No idea if that is all and any backstop - but not having one at all seems a rather difficult ask for the EU to accede to - and hardly it would seem to reflect a UK doing everything possible to engage with the EU to seek a compromise towards a deal. Strikes me that BoJo has set a rather high hurdle to get over for discussions to even start.
Who knows. Maybe the EU will come to realise that UK leaving without a deal will harm the EU more than it will harm the UK - and that they are wrong in their insistence that maintaining the integrity of the Single Market is more important to the EU and EU business and industry than any economic damage done to the EU. Once the EU start listening to us they'll get it.
Anyway - I suppose that when we leave with No Deal BoJo can claim that he was willing to speak with the EU, but they were inflexible in refusing to meet his quite simple pre-condition for the talks to restart. He might try and persuade us that a No Deal departure on 31/10 was therefore the EU's fault (though why 'fault' as it's going to be great is it not?). But we are not stupid - we know that it will be his choice if we do. And more power to his elbow if all is as ticket-boo as he claims is will be. I'm rather hoping he's right. But I am not so sure.
I’m sure your beloved EU have said there is no other deal, no renegotiation and that’s that but don’t let that stop another of your boring repetitive rants.
You're like a petulant child and it was nice when you were in NZ.
it’s a shame you didn’t keep your word in leaving this thread alone
That is a shamefully rude post.
Seems to be a trend by a small minority leave posters lately.
I hope you will be man enough to apologise to Hogan.
I would say Jo Swinson of the LD is doing plenty at the moment and is openly defining the will of the people .
Her main aim is to remain.
If the EU had the foresight to concede a couple of Cameron’s points when he asked for some minor concessions this would not be happening.
But they didn’t as they thought it was a bluff.
They are still not conceding anything so it’s a head on battle and I hope Boris has the balls to follow it through.
They will implode without our money as France and Germany will when their taxpayers see the bill for the EU rising.
That is a shamefully rude post.
Seems to be a trend by a small minority leave posters lately.
I hope you will be man enough to apologise to Hogan.
Yep, We have made mistakes but this is at least 50% the EUs fault as well!When will people learn that it’s not the EU’s fault! 😂
That is a shamefully rude post.
Seems to be a trend by a small minority leave posters lately.
I hope you will be man enough to apologise to Hogan.
Leavers look away. Very interesting guy, not seen this before. Respect for him for saying he has changed his mind based on facts. (equally applicable for Remainer turning to Leave if fact based).
Let me get my flameproof before i hit post...
If there was a Remainer who had converted to Leave who could make a similarly persuasive argument do you seriously think they would be given the same airtime on James O'Brien's show?
Nothing rude in his post at all, SILH posts recently are the same rhetoric over and over again, once you get past the first few sentences you know it's going to repeat itself and ultimately ends up very self serving how he is always right.That is a shamefully rude post.
Seems to be a trend by a small minority leave posters lately.
I hope you will be man enough to apologise to Hogan.