USER1999
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Apparently the EU27 are overwhelmingly in favour of the UK having another referendum.
Well, they would be.
Well, they would be.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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drdel
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They certainly encouraged/forced Ireland to keep trying to get the 'right' answer.
Tashyboy
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We will supply the Bramleys from
Royal Norwood for Koppaberg. Nothing rammel about our first class scrumpers.
Royal Norwood for Koppaberg. Nothing rammel about our first class scrumpers.
Tashyboy
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Whats the EU word for sod off.
Probably the opposite of Democracy.
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Foxholer
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So you don't consider it had anything to do with the amendments made to the Treaty subsequent to the 'No' result of the 1st referendum!
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Dellboy
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The EU will implode within 4-5 years once we have gone, lack of money, in fighting between countries and soon there will be other counties lining up to leave the corrupt dictatorship once they see the world wont stop spinning outside of the EU.
drdel
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Take just two members. Italy already has trillions of debt it can't repay. Greece has debt that the borrows refuse admit is unrecoverable. I just fail to see how the EU still thinks their sums can ever add up, even after massive levels of QE.
Greece's debt is 160% of GDP. In other words, it rises 100's of times quicker than the country makes money.
Mudball
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Without wanting to absolve Greece or any of the PIGS economies, each country goes through these kind of cycle... Ireland and Iceland went through it. UK deficit is 85% of GDP while the grand daddy, US deficit is at 106%... Would anyone stop the US if they want to join the EU - though HE is trying to get the US out of everything ..
2blue
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Very sensible.... its always good to be sure.... or are some folk worried about other things!! We need democracy to be working!!
Dellboy
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Working very well in this fine country.
Asked if we wanted to leave the EU or not, the majority of the population agreed it’s best to dump the EU, Scotland asked if it’s better off to stay in the UK, majority of the population agreed it would be better to stay, working just fine.
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So. One of the few net contributors wants to leave...and the EU Leaders spend only a few minutes discussing it?
Above someone said “that’s because we are so irrelevantâ€.... (why have so many been brought up to think like that.)
I’d say it’s because of either sheer arrogance or certainty that a stitch up has been done. Actually, it’s both.
Foxholer
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Er, notwithstanding my agreement that Greece is indeed a 'basket case', please explain how you interpret the Debt=160% GDP as the bit in bold? Btw, the figure I've seen is actually 180%!
Debt as percentage of GDP doesnt seem to be universally satisfactory metric! Japan's (a traditionally strong financial country) is 223% and Singapore is around 115%. Russia, supposedly lso borderline basket case is 12%!
Tashyboy
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This is a quote from a political analyst working for the BBC after Missis May said that the EU must respect the UK
“Her problem is that they want to push her in different directions.â€
Meaning the EU, some Labour MPs, tory mps, etc etc. She/ Brexit is not gonna please everyone.
Tashyboy can see No deal being the final outcome.
“Her problem is that they want to push her in different directions.â€
Meaning the EU, some Labour MPs, tory mps, etc etc. She/ Brexit is not gonna please everyone.
Tashyboy can see No deal being the final outcome.
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to be honest I'm thinking that's going to be the best outcome..... on the assumption that the EU wont compromise....... but lets be honest, its what the EU has always done, rule with an iron fist and bully its members into doing what it tells them to.
Cant wait to be out.
Tashyboy
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Dont know if its fake news but ave seen a clip of 30 yrs today missis T******r (sorry i cannot say her name) saying†no no no to “ the EU.
Seems missis May is saying the same thing. It was wrong then. Its wrong now.
Seems missis May is saying the same thing. It was wrong then. Its wrong now.
bluewolf
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To be fair to them, they haven't really budged since this all started. Everyone and their dog knew the Chequers deal was a non-starter. For it to be portrayed as an ambush is almost Blackadder-esque in its utter stupidity.
Mystifyingly, she's now decided to double down on a deal that was never going to be acceptable. She's either taking very bad advice or ignoring very good advice.
Whichever side of the debate you find yourself on, you have to be bemused/embarrassed/stunned by the way we have gone about negotiating. We're like the kid in the playground who threatens to take his ball home whilst completely ignoring the fact that everyone else also has a ball 😂
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The Common Market was a fine concept but it all went pear shaped when we signed the Maastricht and Rome treaties which basically handed over our sovereignty. Absolutely no issues trading with Europe but being ruled by them? No thanks!
bluewolf
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As a brief diversion, exactly how have you been affected by this supposed lack of Sovereignty? 😉
Anyway, as long as we can get nice bottles of red then where's the problem?
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