Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Mudball]

It won’t make a difference but just imagine it got to say 20 million people.. what would the MPs do then? Now that would be a story

i told him the same thing.. We looked at each other and then went back to the pint and discussing the footy... Men-being-Men

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Foreigners??? Dare I ask how you know they were not British?

That is easy, they were not like us.

 

[SocketRocket]

I just signed the petition to rerun the battle of Hastings as I dont like the result.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

He certainly is - because he believes that's what's best for the UK economy! I can't fault him on that - as every indicator/indication, including those of the Brexiteers , is that - at least initially - the UK economy will suffer because of Brexit.

I believe the Eu economy will suffer aswel at first

However for some their hatred of the Eu is so strong they would gladly see us suffer so long as they suffer aswell

To say that we can make a better go of this mess than they can

Call me old fashioned but i kind of Prefer Europe working together to improve all countries

So Greece went under, should we stand by and let them?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I just signed the petition to rerun the battle of Hastings as I dont like the result.

Original 👌 steal that one off twitter?

 

[SocketRocket]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-47680979/brexit-people-s-vote-march-to-parliament-square-sped-up

lot of people

You dont say 🙄

 

[SocketRocket]

Original 👌 steal that one off twitter?

I dont twitter, its for the birds.

 

[SocketRocket]

It won’t make a difference but just imagine it got to say 20 million people.. what would the MPs do then? Now that would be a story

Catch up, this has been explained before. They wont do anything as its only the ballot box that counts for anything 🙄

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Catch up, this has been explained before. They wont do anything as its only the ballot box that counts for anything 🙄

The only box that matters is the ones the MPs vote in.. not the one we vote in 👌

Keep up

 

[robinthehood]

I just signed the petition to rerun the battle of Hastings as I dont like the result.

Wasn't even funny in 2016 when it was set up, perhaps you should Google some new material .

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Wasn't even funny in 2016 when it was set up, perhaps you should Google some new material .

You have to forgive him he’s only heard of ask Jeeves

 

[Blue in Munich]

He certainly is - because he believes that's what's best for the UK economy! I can't fault him on that - as every indicator/indication, including those of the Brexiteers , is that - at least initially - the UK economy will suffer because of Brexit.

I wouldn’t disagree that short term there will be an impact, however it removes the bigger issues that have been cited. Short term pain for long term gain if you like. Given that Hammond is a Remainer, I’m not surprised that he highlights the short term over the long term; it suits his real agenda.

 

[SocketRocket]

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The only box that matters is the ones the MPs vote in.. not the one we vote in 👌

Keep up

I repeat, they will do nothing no matter how many sign it. And, they vote in Lobbies not boxes 🙄

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Didnt the Bank of England recently give a forecast of growth remaining positive b

I repeat, they will do nothing o matter how many sign it. And, they vote in Lobbies not boxes 🙄

Which means the ballot box is even more meaningless and it’s the lobbies that’s all that matters..

 

[SocketRocket]

Which means the ballot box is even more meaningless and it’s the lobbies that’s all that matters..

See, youve learned something today. Dont forget its the ballot box that puts them in their job, the public only lend then their position and can take it away next time.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I wouldn’t disagree that short term there will be an impact, however it removes the bigger issues that have been cited. Short term pain for long term gain if you like. Given that Hammond is a Remainer, I’m not surprised that he highlights the short term over the long term; it suits his real agenda.

My biggest worry about it all is how long that “short term” pain is - is there a chance of it being a bit more than “short” - does it go from months to years and maybe more. The country has not long recovered ( prob not fully ) from the global recession- it wouldn’t be good for us all to be hit again with big austerity measures etc .

Lots of “forecasts” etc but it’s got to be impossible to predict

 

[Foxholer]

I wouldn’t disagree that short term there will be an impact, however it removes the bigger issues that have been cited. Short term pain for long term gain if you like. Given that Hammond is a Remainer, I’m not surprised that he highlights the short term over the long term; it suits his real agenda.

Surely he's entitled to his opinion, just as you or I, or Farage or Boris are to our/theirs!

But I'm inclined to respect his opinion somewhat more than Farage's or Boris's (or yours for that matter, but that doesn't mean I'm 'dis-ing' any of them!).

 

[Blue in Munich]

My biggest worry about it all is how long that “short term” pain is - is there a chance of it being a bit more than “short” - does it go from months to years and maybe more. The country has not long recovered ( prob not fully ) from the global recession- it wouldn’t be good for us all to be hit again with big austerity measures etc .

Lots of “forecasts” etc but it’s got to be impossible to predict

And how long is the long term when the EU’s QE chickens come home to roost Phil? And how big will that be as it appears to be a number of the other net contributors that are at risk?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Not at all. It’s been around longer than the leave campaign
A gammon is a middle aged white man who’s red in and face and raging

2012 it was first used

It’s been used now to discribe Brexiteers because of the anger involved when they shout at MPs

It’s actually from Dickens-a description of a lawyer, I can’t remember which book

 

[Blue in Munich]

Surely he's entitled to his opinion, just as you or I, or Farage or Boris are to our/theirs!

But I'm inclined to respect his opinion somewhat more than Farage's or Boris's (or yours for that matter, but that doesn't mean I'm 'dis-ing' any of them!).

Indeed he is, but given his track record as Chancellor where I believe he hasn’t exactly distinguished himself, the fact that his predecessor has been proven inaccurate in his predictions and the general performance of Her Majesty’s government during the Brexit process I would hope you can understand my scepticism.