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Big Ben

It’s getting a bit boring now isn’t it - yes what a surprise you don’t agree with spending money on a national historic building - no doubt if it was in Scotland the attitude would be different

I’m surprised it’s taken this long for the bitterness to come to the fore.

That is one thing I certainly am not. Clearly you don't know my make up at all. Keep banging the drum though.

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While I wouldn't have made the comparison don't underestimate the tragedy that is the loss of the Glasgow School of Art. In certain circles it's hugely iconic and a work of art that now is lost forever.

However if that repair bill was going to come in at £80 million I'd be saying scrap the blooming place.

It’s clearly not that iconic
 
While I wouldn't have made the comparison don't underestimate the tragedy that is the loss of the Glasgow School of Art. In certain circles it's hugely iconic and a work of art that now is lost forever.

However if that repair bill was going to come in at £80 million I'd be saying scrap the blooming place.

I have no doubt it is an iconic building and the loss will be big for some. But if they could repair it and it brings in funds to help that then do it
 
It’s clearly not that iconic

You fail to grasp basic logic. I never claimed it to be massively "iconic" it is however (was) one of the greatest examples of a certain style or art and was loved and regarded in certain circles who held it in high regard. Therefore those who move in those circles regard it as iconic.

Hope that's clear enough for you.
 
I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who are keen to support spending £80,000,000 on repairing an old Victorian clock.
Who priced the job, Bodgit and Scarper or a Tory Party funders company.:love:
 
While I wouldn't have made the comparison don't underestimate the tragedy that is the loss of the Glasgow School of Art. In certain circles it's hugely iconic and a work of art that now is lost forever.

However if that repair bill was going to come in at £80 million I'd be saying scrap the blooming place.

My point was simply that for Glasgow, the Art School was a massively important building with world importance architecturally as a pinnacle of Art Nouveau architecture - and it formed the centrepiece of a small collection of CRM buildings that many people visiting Glasgow took in as part of their visit. Glasgow is significantly the poorer culturally for it's loss - and that loss - in the scheme of things - might well be considered greater for Glasgow than having an Elizabeth Tower who's big bell didn't bong might be for London. That's all.
 
I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who are keen to support spending £80,000,000 on repairing an old Victorian clock.
Who priced the job, Bodgit and Scarper or a Tory Party funders company.:love:
You really don't add anything to debates except constant digs at anyone that's not the SNP.
 
I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who are keen to support spending £80,000,000 on repairing an old Victorian clock.
Who priced the job, Bodgit and Scarper or a Tory Party funders company.:love:

I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who find it hard to understand the level of historical important the Bell has. But then I look at those posters and it’s easy to understand why.

I have no doubt that If £80mil was required to repair the same level historic building in Scotland people wouldn’t be complaining from below the border
 
You fail to grasp basic logic. I never claimed it to be massively "iconic" it is however (was) one of the greatest examples of a certain style or art and was loved and regarded in certain circles who held it in high regard. Therefore those who move in those circles regard it as iconic.

Hope that's clear enough for you.
more people have heard of and would recognise Big Ben as being truly iconic!
I hope that clear enough for your tiny mind to comprehend
 
I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who find it hard to understand the level of historical important the Bell has. But then I look at those posters and it’s easy to understand why.

I have no doubt that If £80mil was required to repair the same level historic building in Scotland people wouldn’t be complaining from below the border

Phil,
We’ll never win mate as they’re bitter and twisted who think their so hard done by
 
I find it hard to believe that there are people on here who find it hard to understand the level of historical important the Bell has. But then I look at those posters and it’s easy to understand why.

I have no doubt that If £80mil was required to repair the same level historic building in Scotland people wouldn’t be complaining from below the border
Missing the point, do you think £80,000,0000 is good value for repairing an old Victorian clock. Irrespective of it's 'iconic' status.
BTW1 it is not very historical.
BTW2 Westminster would never spend that sort of money on a very small single project in Scotland.
 
Missing the point, do you think £80,000,0000 is good value for repairing an old Victorian clock. Irrespective of it's 'iconic' status.

Yes I do think it’s good value for something that is far more than a “Victorian clock “ - which is of course you trying to demean it

BTW1 it is not very historical.

Is it ? Care to explain

Grade 1 listed building , World Heritage Site

BTW2 Westminster would never spend that sort of money on a very small single project in Scotland.

Since when was it a small project ?
 
Missing the point, do you think £80,000,0000 is good value for repairing an old Victorian clock. Irrespective of it's 'iconic' status.
BTW1 it is not very historical.
BTW2 Westminster would never spend that sort of money on a very small single project in Scotland.

This has nothing to do with Scotland Soon and even if they were proposing to spend £80 million on Edinburgh Castle I'd still be as disgusted.

Years of neglect shouldn't be shouldered by the tax payer in my opinion.

Certain people steered it towards a Scotland England thing which couldn't be further from the original intention of the post. I find it in very poor taste to splash this cash when the Met can't keep people safe on the streets due to budget cuts, when we have children living in abstract poverty and hospital waiting times are at an all time high.

Priorities are all wrong.
 
A life without culture would be a dull place. Communist societies have destroyed historical buildings, as has ISIS. It is sad to see historically significant structures disappear due to neglect, or willful vandalism. It is a UNESCO heritage site. We should be ashamed if we cannot sustain it for future generations to enjoy. As a nation we squander money on so much utter rubbish, there should be a bit of leeway for preserving our heritage. It is what made us who we are. It doesn't mean we should neglect the homeless, or the NHS. This should not be the choice.
 
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