Becoming a golf snob?

on a pay and play I expect to find pitchmarks on the green, what gets me more angry is finding them on private golf courses, I tnd to fins it's members who are most at fault for not repairing their pitchmarks.

rant over
 
I've never had my shirt tucked in on a golf course. I don't wear a belt.

If that means that somebody wouldn't want a friendly knock and a laugh with me, that's their problem in my book.

Judging people on clothes works both ways.

For every bloke with his shirt tucked in to his freshly pressed trousers, held onto his hips with a nice belt, stating "look at that peasant, with his shirt untucked"... there is a bloke giving his chest a bit of an airing with his shirt untucked saying "look at the tosser with all the clobber, tucked in to show off his thirty quid belt..."

You can turn up in cycling shorts and a wife beater for all i care, get amongst it.
 
The difference between snobbery and having standards is simple in my eyes:

Snobbery - looking at someone and commenting that they are not wearing designer golf clothing and do not have top of the range clubs.

Standards - Looking at someone and commenting that they could have ironed their kit and noticing that heir clubs are filthy.

Nothing wrong with having standards Steve. I have them too. Ok I may push the boundaries with some of my outfits and yes I do wear the new Adidas Samba golf shoes that look like footie boots. But I always look smart and do everything that a golfer should do on the course.
 
If I met up with somebody on the first tee and they had really dirty shoes on and their shirt was untucked, I wouldn't really be looking forward to playing with them.
Sorry and all that
 
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Our greens are easily amongst the best in the area, and it absolutely does my box in seeing unrepaired pitch marks in them. I stop and repair 3 or 4 on every green. I'm getting quite good at it now
 
Our greens are easily amongst the best in the area, and it absolutely does my box in seeing unrepaired pitch marks in them. I stop and repair 3 or 4 on every green. I'm getting quite good at it now

Exactly, and that's what it's all about.

Look after, repair and respect the course - show respect to your playing partners by shutting the fluck up when they're addressing the ball, and by having constructive conversation and decent banter.

I'll judge people on what comes out of their gob, rather than what they look like, but I appreciate a lot of people won't, or simply can't, I won't think any less of them for it.

I'll respect the course by fixing my own (on the rare occasion they are made) pitch marks, and a few others - it gripes me when people don't.
 
If I met up with somebody on the first tee and they had really dirty shoes on and their shirt was untucked, I wouldn't really be looking forward to playing with them.
Sorry and all that

I'd be more concerned if i met up with someone on first tee looking like your profile photo Smiffy!
 
Cant say I'd be upset with any of that on a public pay and play course as its what I'd expect.

People who arent members of clubs tend not to know about the etiquette in the game so its not their fault.

No excuse for it in private clubs though.
 
Cant say I'd be upset with any of that on a public pay and play course as its what I'd expect.

People who arent members of clubs tend not to know about the etiquette in the game so its not their fault.

No excuse for it in private clubs though.

Why do we perceive this to be the case? Being a member of a club, in many cases, is down to having money. This does not always have sense attached to it and there are as many people in private clubs that can have no clue about the etiquette of the game as there are on municiple courses.
Many friends of mine are golf fanatics, know the rules better than I do and have standards as mentioned previously, but they cannot afford the fees for joining a club at this time. They play muni courses but dress accordingly for the game​ not the surroundings.
 
Cant say I'd be upset with any of that on a public pay and play course as its what I'd expect.

People who arent members of clubs tend not to know about the etiquette in the game so its not their fault.

No excuse for it in private clubs though.

That's the sort of comment I would call 'snobby' but it's your opinion, I respect that.

I'm a member of a private club with extortionate fees, but I play with my shirt untucked - am I a disgrace/embarrassment to my club?

I'd argue i'd be an asset to any club I played at, because I replace divots, and because I repair pitch marks. There are many tucked in, belt wearing, cap doffing, pretentious pillocks who won't.

The snobby element of golfers just need to get over themselves a little bit.
 
They now wear shoes that look like trainers and YES you'll see penty of untucked shirts... don't you watch tele?

Youll have to name the ones with untucked shirts as i cant think of any :confused: not even ricky fowler or rory...and they are the young new vibrant generation!
 
I will hold my hands up as I too am a respectful golfer but can be found on the course with my Polo untucked.
Am I scruffy not in my opinion its clean, its ironed and its tastful but untucked because it enables me to swing more freely.
Replacing divots and repairing your pitch marks are not optional these traits are of common courtesy and respect not snobbery. Add raking bunkers to this bracket too!

Snobbery is looking down on peoples belongings (Clothing, Clubs and even their Car).

I have played alot of golf in the last 18 months at Public Pay and Play courses to Exclusive members only courses and believe me most golfers at the public course are more respectful than those at private clubs. I say most golfers as to me a golfer is somebody who plays or has played a bit in there time and understands and appreciates the rules and equitte elements on the game.
Unfortunately Public course are let down by those without the knowledge of these unwritten rules and often will some education they would be more than happy to retify any wrong doing.
Where at private clubs its like some of the members feel to high and mighty to replace divots or repair pitch marks. As they paid their subs they are king of the course and thats what the green keepers are paid to do.

Its very difficult to find the right balance between the two. I believe my club has a great mix respectful working people and a lovely maintained private club.
 
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An example of golf snobbery with a hint of ignorance.

Sorry if it came across that way but I'm neither a snob nor ignorant.

Some people who play on pay and play courses won't have any idea that you are supposed to repair pitch marks, not stand on putting lines etc. They don't know because they arent aware of it. Not their fault if they dont play with more experienced players who can educate them.

I dont get in a strop about that when I play on pay and play courses for that reason (which I do regularly with friends who have only just started playing).

I would expect a member of a private club who has presumeably payed hansomely for the privilege of joining to be more clued up on what to do and what not to do though.

I couldn't care less if someone turns up with slightly dirty shoes or has their shirt hanging out
 
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I have played alot of golf in the last 18 months at Public Pay and Play courses to Exclusive members only courses and believe me most golfers at the public course are more respectful than those at private clubs. I say most golfers as to me a golfer is somebody who plays or has played a bit in there time and understands and appreciates the rules and equitte elements on the game.
Unfortunately Public course are let down by those without the knowledge of these unwritten rules and often will some education they would be more than happy to retify any wrong doing.

Where at private clubs its like some of the members feel to high and mighty to replace divots or repair pitch marks. As they paid their subs they are king of the course and thats what the green keepers are paid to do.

Spot on.

4 blokes from the pub who decide to have a knock on their local 9 hole course are a completely different kettle of fish to people who pay regularly and pay highly for it. One group simply doesnt know and the other group should know better.
 
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