BBC Sports Personality - Short list

I think it has to be Andy Murray, for hid unbelievable achievement in what is a team event. Given our lack of success over the years, including when Tim Henman and Greg Rusedski were playing, it is refreshing to see Andy;s commitment to the team.
 
I'll also defend anyone's right to vote against Fury because he is a complete tool.

It is supposed to be Sports Personality, not Sports Personality Disorder.

Fury's rants sound like someone with more than a strong religious view.

It's long gone being about Personality - in fact it never was - it was always about the best sporting performance regardless of personality.
 
Always remember the wise words of Evelyn Hall

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

No doubt a good and memorable quote but so often used out of context to support hate speech. The difference between Tyson Fury and Helvetius couldn't really be more stark.
 
Yes. You said that. I'm interested to know what he said in particular

Just the way he acted

Heard lots of trash talk from boxers over time before fights but afterwards they calm down and become more human and respectful and act more sensibly - he was continuing with the trash rubbish and his general demenour was a step below the village idiot. The presenter tried his best to get legible answers from him and he seemed incapable of talking sense. Acted and spoke like a complete tool.

Hopefully he won't win it
 
Dissapointed Joe Root isn't on the shortlist? Seems as though if the BBC doesn't cover your sport you don't get a look in.

Don't know why Murray should win. Let's celebrate not winning any grand slams shall we?
 
Dissapointed Joe Root isn't on the shortlist? Seems as though if the BBC doesn't cover your sport you don't get a look in.

Don't know why Murray should win. Let's celebrate not winning any grand slams shall we?

Did Murray win it before? If so I'd agree he hasn't done enough to justify another win. But if he hasn't, I think in a year of pretty poor achievement for British sport people then dragging us to the Davis cup might be worthy of consideration.

Looking at the short list, I think Mo Farah is the best candidate.
 
Did Murray win it before? If so I'd agree he hasn't done enough to justify another win. But if he hasn't, I think in a year of pretty poor achievement for British sport people then dragging us to the Davis cup might be worthy of consideration.

Looking at the short list, I think Mo Farah is the best candidate.

I think Murray quite rightly won it the year he won Wimbledon.

Davis cup team For TOTY maybe, but why not England cricket and the ashes? People were predicting a 5-0 whitewash.

My concern for celebrating the Davis cup win is that it masks what an awful state British tennis is (and has been for years) in.
 
Looking at the list that's a lot of world champions

Peaty is three times swimming world champ
Rutherford - now Champion at every level from British up to Olympic and World and holds them all at the same time
Ennis - World champ again
Farah - that's 6 golds in a row now
Whitlock - Gymnastic world champ

The list goes on - has it really been a poor year for achievements ?
 
Just the way he acted

Heard lots of trash talk from boxers over time before fights but afterwards they calm down and become more human and respectful and act more sensibly - he was continuing with the trash rubbish and his general demenour was a step below the village idiot. The presenter tried his best to get legible answers from him and he seemed incapable of talking sense. Acted and spoke like a complete tool.

Hopefully he won't win it

He was very respectful after the fight. You obviously didn't watch it and haven't seen the post fight press conference. He said if he can be half the great champion that Wlad has been he'd be a happy man.
 
I think Murray quite rightly won it the year he won Wimbledon.

Davis cup team For TOTY maybe, but why not England cricket and the ashes? People were predicting a 5-0 whitewash.

My concern for celebrating the Davis cup win is that it masks what an awful state British tennis is (and has been for years) in.

In that case I quite agree. Can't see Davis Cup for TOTY. Murray wouldn't agree with this, I'm sure, but if ever there was an example of a one man team that was it.

I know England won the ashes but they seem to be in a constant state of turmoil at the moment so I'd be unconvinced by them as TOTY.

Not sure who my TOTY might be.... need to mull that over.
 
He was very respectful after the fight. You obviously didn't watch it and haven't seen the post fight press conference. He said if he can be half the great champion that Wlad has been he'd be a happy man.

No I didn't watch the after fight press conference but that doesn't change how he was acting this morning on that interview
 
Looking at the list that's a lot of world champions

Peaty is three times swimming world champ
Rutherford - now Champion at every level from British up to Olympic and World and holds them all at the same time
Ennis - World champ again
Farah - that's 6 golds in a row now
Whitlock - Gymnastic world champ

The list goes on - has it really been a poor year for achievements ?

Don't forget fury.

WBO, IBF, WBA unified undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
 
I think Murray quite rightly won it the year he won Wimbledon.

Davis cup team For TOTY maybe, but why not England cricket and the ashes? People were predicting a 5-0 whitewash.

My concern for celebrating the Davis cup win is that it masks what an awful state British tennis is (and has been for years) in.

That's the first time GB have won the Davis Cup for 80 years - it's a fantastic achievement

The Ashes IMO was always going to be a lot closer and England have won it a number of times in recent years

It should always just be about the actual achievement as opposed to what's happening in the background

Murray was superb in the Davis Cup but you can never forget the impact Ward had in the quarter final when he beat Isner after the doubles lost.
 
Looking at the list that's a lot of world champions

Peaty is three times swimming world champ
Rutherford - now Champion at every level from British up to Olympic and World and holds them all at the same time
Ennis - World champ again
Farah - that's 6 golds in a row now
Whitlock - Gymnastic world champ

The list goes on - has it really been a poor year for achievements ?

Probably says more about my bias. A poor year in sports that hold any interest for me, some success in minority sports. I didn't know anything from your list other than Farah. Couldn't even have told you what sports Peaty or Whitlock competed in.
 
No I didn't watch the after fight press conference but that doesn't change how he was acting this morning on that interview

One interview?

What about the one where he said winning wouldn't change him? Said he was still wearing the same suit he'd had on all weak and wearing slazenger socks. Which I found amusing.
 
Probably says more about my bias. A poor year in sports that hold any interest for me, some success in minority sports. I didn't know anything from your list other than Farah. Couldn't even have told you what sports Peaty or Whitlock competed in.

Oh agree that it is a poor year in regards the main stream sports - Football and Rugby
 
One interview?

What about the one where he said winning wouldn't change him? Said he was still wearing the same suit he'd had on all weak and wearing slazenger socks. Which I found amusing.
Is one interview plus all this trash talk not enough then for me to make a judgement about the person ?
 
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