BBC Sports Personality - Short list

Liverpoolphil said:
Can I not use public perception of someone to judge him plus how he was with injured soldiers at Selly Oak and Newport House ? Unless there is some scandal I have missed ?
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Phil I am not saying he is not a nice guy all I was saying he comes across like that but we don't really know do we.

Perhaps Slime knows something we or the public does not.
 
richy said:
This post makes me laugh. He's just beating a pound for pound great. Not just beaten him but taken him to school.

All this hype around Joshua is a joke. He's beaten a collection of plumbers and Latvian taxi drivers so far. He was gifted a win in the Olympics by some questionable judging.

People need to look further than sky sports and matchroom sports when it comes to boxing.
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Glad I was of assistance Rich :thup:

Go on enlighten me who are the superstars of heavyweight boxing then ?

Do You seriously think heavy weight boxing is worth watching at the min ?

I mentioned I was "hoping " Joshua will improve things , he is still very unproven ..

I don't think he has done enough to be up there yet . apart from an old VK who has he beaten of any note then ? possibly Chisora ? or the American cruiser weight he beat ? cant think of his name ..


Im interested to hear the reply , up to about 3/4 year ago I was a mega boxing fan so I may be out of touch I admit , but I don't know of any good let alone great boxers out there , Buster Douglas beat the once great Mike Tyson back in early 90's , Bruno beat a guy called mc call, .. only 1 heavy weight since Holyfield & Tyson & that was VK , but sadly he is 1 possibly 2 years past his sell by date


Just my opinion tho
 
bladeplayer said:
Glad I was of assistance Rich :thup:

Go on enlighten me who are the superstars of heavyweight boxing then ?

Do You seriously think heavy weight boxing is worth watching at the min ?

I mentioned I was "hoping " Joshua will improve things , he is still very unproven ..

I don't think he has done enough to be up there yet . apart from an old VK who has he beaten of any note then ? possibly Chisora ? or the American cruiser weight he beat ? cant think of his name ..


Im interested to hear the reply , up to about 3/4 year ago I was a mega boxing fan so I may be out of touch I admit , but I don't know of any good let alone great boxers out there , Buster Douglas beat the once great Mike Tyson back in early 90's , Bruno beat a guy called mc call, .. only 1 heavy weight since Holyfield & Tyson & that was VK , but sadly he is 1 possibly 2 years past his sell by date


Just my opinion tho
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I'll admit the heavyweight division isn't at it's best but the best around currently are Fury, Povetkin, Klitschko. Possibly Wilder

I'd watch most boxing to be honest as long as it's well matched.

No one was calling Wlad past it until he was done by Fury, then all the haters came out to try and belittle his achievement. One that no one thought he had a chance at doing. Before this fight people had him near top of P4P lists. Fury's resume is better than Wilders and people are saying he's the best in the world.

What exactly makes Mike Tyson a great? Exciting yes but he wouldn't be in my top 10 heavyweights.

There are plenty of great boxers out the, just not heavyweights. Rigondoux, Gonzalez, GGG
 
Scrotie McBoogerballs said:
Why isn`t Danny Kent on the list?
Moto3 World Champ.
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I'm guessing the panel didn't think the achievement was significant enough to be ahead of the 12 shortlisted

On another note - just listened to Fury onn5live - complete doorknob
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Whilst I don't agree with what he has said - he is entitled to that opinion and whilst fully understand the remarks are vile to you they won't be to everyone

Not everyone agree that's abortion and homosexuality should be legalised everywhere for whatever their reasons are - seems it's religion for him

And having those views shouldn't stop him being able to win sporting awards
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If the award is for a sports personality, and that personality is a bigot - then of course he shouldn't be on the list.

Still bemused how his religious views are compatible with smacking the living *** out of another human being.
 
As an athletics fan for me it is Greg Rutherford!

However, we all know it's going to be between Lewis Hamilton and Andy Murray. Greg won a sideline event a few month ago, they both won a headliner just about now.

What I like about Greg is that they all say it's a fluke, but can you really fluke it every time, consistently? Worlds, Olympics, Europeans, Commonwealth, British record? Not all in this year of course, just the worlds and the record.

I also like that he shows some personality, but than, for sooty it's not important. The other athletes, you have to go a while back before you find a tweet that isn't a retweet of one of their sponsors.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Phil, for once in your life try and have a bit of sensitivity instead of just arguing for the sake of it. Anyone who for any reason tries to equate homosexuality with paedophilia has gone beyond the pale. Religion is no excuse, none whatsoever. It is not unreasonable to expect the national public service broadcaster to condemn such a bigot rather than put him up as a role model.
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Great post.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I'm guessing the panel didn't think the achievement was significant enough to be ahead of the 12 shortlisted

On another note - just listened to Fury onn5live - complete doorknob
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I heard his dad last night ........................ I know where Tyson gets it from. Absolute plonker.

Slime.
 
Chris Froome for winning TdF for a second time

GB Davies Cup team for the team of the year award, even though in reality Andy Murray is the team. However you can't ignore the achievement.
 
Tyson Fury come across as a complete tool. But for Sports Personality you need to just look at a persons achievements, not what's been in the press and British World Heavyweights don't come along too often so he has to be considered. You don't like him, don't vote for him, simple as that.

I'm not a huge fan of Chris Froome but I have complete respect for him winning the TdeF twice and he'll probably get my vote, but I think Andy Murray will be a runaway winner this year.

Always remember the wise words of Evelyn Hall

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
 
My vote goes for Murray. Never thought he actually had a personality before but after the win on Sunday and subsequent wholly justified rant against the LTA I'm rather impressed. Let's have more of this, please.
 
Duckster said:
Tyson Fury come across as a complete tool. But for Sports Personality you need to just look at a persons achievements, not what's been in the press and British World Heavyweights don't come along too often so he has to be considered. You don't like him, don't vote for him, simple as that.

I'm not a huge fan of Chris Froome but I have complete respect for him winning the TdeF twice and he'll probably get my vote, but I think Andy Murray will be a runaway winner this year.

Always remember the wise words of Evelyn Hall

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
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I'll also defend anyone's right to vote against Fury because he is a complete tool.

It is supposed to be Sports Personality, not Sports Personality Disorder.

Fury's rants sound like someone with more than a strong religious view.
 
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