BBC Coverage

[HRC99]

Just sat here watching the PGA from Wentworth and, leaving aside feelings about Peter Allis, the quality of the BBC coverage is just superb compared to Sky.

The camera work and direction is just tremendous with gloriously framed shots showing the golf and the course fantastically well.

There's also seems to be much more coverage of drives and approach shots rather than the endless putting you get on Sky.

In HD, the whole things looks brilliant.

Go BBC and go, Danny Willett!

 

[Dodger]

Sorry I cannot agree with any of that.

 

[HRC99]

Sorry I cannot agree with any of that.

May I ask, why?

 

[RGDave]

In HD, the whole things looks brilliant.

Go BBC and go, Danny Willett!

I am fed up. I switch to the BBC freesat HD channel and get b.s.of.d. "no signal".

What is the blommin issue. When it's up and running (which it does sometimes) I get 9/10 for signal strength and signal quality. When I look at the signal/quality on NON-HD BBC, it's 10/10.....stupid HD channel.

 

[Kent61]

P.A is a total waste of time, his comments are very 'old school' and very obviously made by a gentleman who is not at all in touch with the modern game.
Ken Brown is, as ever, excellent with his little cameos interesting and informative.
Phil Parkin is a Sky reject...not hard to guess why
For me, and it is after all only my opinion, the golf is better covered on Sky. They have 'colour commentators' who actually know the modern game, and it's players.
However, I do believe the BBC coverage could be improved ten fold with the simple removal of P.A
Totally agree with the GO DANNY! great to see a Yorkshire lad compete at such a high level...good bag man too so hopefully it wont be too long before they hit the winners circle
Kent

 

[compo28]

I like PA, to be honest. He is a throwback to the days before political correctness took over, and I think this is kind of refreshing these days.

BBC coverage in general is very good, it is such a luxury to be able to watch hours of TV golf without the ad breaks every 10 minutes like you get on sky...

 

[HRC99]

I was trying to avoid a Peter Alliss thread and just comment on the quality of the production. When the BBC covers something, they seem to do it to a very high standard.

Roll on the Open!

A real shame for Danny Willett. Frightening driving, just a shame he couldn't get a bit closer. But a nice cheque, ranking points and some great exposure.

 

[Kent61]

I agree on the commercial breaks, but that is where the money comes from and is, I believe, a necessary evil for the coverage we get.
If you want someone who says exactly what they mean then Johnny Miller is THE MAN and...he's been there, done it and with a great deal of style I might add.
I watched the Ladies Matchplay on the internet (www.myp2p.eu) is brilliant and it still has commercial breaks on there.
I admit Sky isn't the b-all and end-all of golf, for sure I get sick of David Livingstone apologiesing for the breaks and Mark Rowe saying "and um" but I'm grateful they took golf when all the BBC saw fit to cover was The Masters and The Open Championship
HRC, when you have a thread about the BBC coverage you have to bring into the conversation PA, it's just part and parcel of the deal LOL
Kent

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I may be wrong but I was under the assumption that the coverage is usually provides by European Tour Productions and that the same camera crews and positions were used for both the Sky and BBC coverage. I have to say I like Ken Brown a lot but prefer Ewan Murray, Boxall, Lee and especially Riley doing the on course stuff

 

[HughJars]

Another one in the BBC much better thna SKY camp. And I have to say as well, that Alliss is one of the reasons, SKY tends to be dour stuff, BBC is much more light hearted, and a better and easier watch.

 

[stevek1969]

Totally disagree the BBC'S coverage is rank rotten,SKY's coverage is 100% better ,ok you get comeercial breaks but the BBC used to break for other mickey mouse sports.

Ken Brown whats he all about jumping in the bunker at 16,knob

 

[Dodger]

May I ask, why?

Indeed you can.....you have an anchor man that is way out of touch with the modern game,I mean how many times since 1990 has he said 'a 150 yard wedge??dear dear me,in my day that was a good 8 iron'.He is a has been,time has moved on and so should he.

You have on course guys who are not a patch on Sky's for infomation and knowledge plus one of them is a split arse whom sounds like she is as interested in what's going on as I am in gardening....what has she ever done of note in the game?? Give me Boxy,Radar and Clark any day.

Then finally the feed you are getting is from European Tour Productions so sweet F.A to do with any effort from BBC.


Sky all the way,the beeb is just cooncil T.V. in comparison.

 

[Snelly]

I completely disagree with the above. Peter Alliss makes the coverage worth watching. When he's gone, I will definitely watch less golf. He is a character and refreshingly old fashioned if that isn't a contradiction in terms...

I also think that the BBC commentators with the exception of Sam Torrance, tend to be less sycophantic and more critical of the players on show, especially when it comes to on-course behaviour and slow play. I like this aspect a lot..

Where the BBC coverage absolutely falls down though is when they think we want to watch something other than the play. Their features that show what goes on behind the scenes or a day in the life of a caddie, greenkeeper or similar are utterly mind-numbing and effectively irrelevant to the play.

 

[Spoff]

I enjoy listening to PA, but much prefer Sky's coverage.

Just feels more professional, but then it should. They're able to dedicate a number of channels to sport.

 

[HughJars]

You have on course guys who are not a patch on Sky's for infomation and knowledge plus one of them is a split arse whom sounds like she is as interested in what's going on as I am in gardening....what has she ever done of note in the game?? Give me Boxy,Radar and Clark any day.

I do agree with you here, these guys are way ahead, Van de Velde yesterday was terrible. Ok, so English isn't his first language, but if his English isn't good enough for TV, then he shouldn't be on TV.

I completely disagree with the above. Peter Alliss makes the coverage worth watching. When he's gone, I will definitely watch less golf. He is a character and refreshingly old fashioned if that isn't a contradiction in terms...

I also think that the BBC commentators with the exception of Sam Torrance, tend to be less sycophantic and more critical of the players on show, especially when it comes to on-course behaviour and slow play. I like this aspect a lot..

Yeah this for me, the SKY commentary is dry as weetabix with no milk. Critchley isn't bad, but he's very pedestrian, and Euan Murray is just dull.

As the commentary team fill more air-time than the on course guys, thta's probably why the Beeb shades it.

I inevitably find SKY's coverage dull, I can watch the Beeb all day.

 

[Paul_Stewart]

Peter Alliss was an embarrassment yesterday and from speaking to media colleagues at the BBC, they all want shot of him. Disagreeing with analysis is one thing (heck I presented enough shows for Sky on the NFL so know what criticism is like) but he makes terrible factual errors like not even realising Luke Donald had double-bogeyed 17 and hence was now two behind Khan.

And of course this is not the first time he has done it (Mickleson at the Masters when he didn't even realise Phil had won).

Alliss is getting close to senile. He has passed his sell-by date and is now a rotting corpse in the corner of what could be a decent coverage unit if the BBC bite the bullet and remove him.

Any chance Di Stewart (no relation) can wear even shorter skirts on Sunday nights though to make listening to that Aussie bore Wayne Riley worth bearing?

 

[Ethan]

The choice of analysts is often rather odd. I thought John Morgan was bad on Sky, but Jean vdv and Wayne Riley are terrible. Sandy Lyle and Mark James are both hopeless too.

Wayne Grady, on the other hand, is great, and Sam Torrance should take over from Alliss.

 

[madandra]

Bring in Bob Bubka from TalkSport. He is 'The Voice'.

 

[toonarmy]

Wayne Grady, on the other hand, is great, and Sam Torrance should take over from Alliss.

Whilst I agree with you about Grady, who has superb insight and delivery, I could not disagree more about Torrance. He is nothing more than a simpering, sycophantic sentimentalist whose sole contribution appears to be stating the bleeding obvious (when he's not got his tongue rammed so far up Woods' backside of course).

Apologies for anyone who struggles with sibilants for that last sentence!

 

[Macster]

BBC all the way for me, the camerawork is streets ahead. Peter Alliss is a legend, for me, there is no better commentary. Ken Brown's course analysis is ace too.

Put Wayne Riley on course for the BBC, and it would be perfect.

Sky team are just bland in comparison, inane chat and constant Ad breaks, it drives me nuts.