SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Just don't chuck fag ends away - and please don't use the 'they are biodegradable' argument. I pick up any litter I come across on the course - but fag ends make me boak and I just can't get myself to pick them up.
Ban Smoking on Golf Courses
- Thread starter KenL
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Just don't chuck fag ends away - and please don't use the 'they are biodegradable' argument. I pick up any litter I come across on the course - but fag ends make me boak and I just can't get myself to pick them up.
Blimey, 17 pages. I don't like smoke but in an open place I think it is okay. I would never complain to a golfer who smokes, being British yet not from Yorkshire, I avoid confrontation. However I would stay away from them when they are smoking, particularly staying upwind as I don't like smelling like an ashtray nor breathing in the smoke. On a golf course that is pretty easy to manage.
With regards to butts for some reason smokers don't seem to consider fag ends to be litter but they are and they look a mess. I always remember my grandad, who smoked, would always stub out a cigarette and put it back in the packet if he was not near an ash tray or bin. He never threw one on the floor as he didn't like litter. If he could do it then so could others.
With regards to butts for some reason smokers don't seem to consider fag ends to be litter but they are and they look a mess. I always remember my grandad, who smoked, would always stub out a cigarette and put it back in the packet if he was not near an ash tray or bin. He never threw one on the floor as he didn't like litter. If he could do it then so could others.
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People will smoke on the course, and it'll not get banned.
I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell of smoke - as a serious asthmatic just being close to someone smoking outdoors can affect me.
But I still doubt it'll ever be banned.
But one aspect that hasn't been addressed is the smoking of players on tour.
There are often posts on this forum berating the likes of Tiger for spitting, Reed for swearing and Rory for chucking clubs etc - apparently they are role models and shouldn't do these things as little kids will copy them.
So I'm surprised that no one is after banning smoking on the televised golf as it sends out bad messages to the fans.
After all we don't want our budding little Rory's & Spieth's to be walking the fairways smoking just because Uncle JimmyNez looks cool, do we?
I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell of smoke - as a serious asthmatic just being close to someone smoking outdoors can affect me.
But I still doubt it'll ever be banned.
But one aspect that hasn't been addressed is the smoking of players on tour.
There are often posts on this forum berating the likes of Tiger for spitting, Reed for swearing and Rory for chucking clubs etc - apparently they are role models and shouldn't do these things as little kids will copy them.
So I'm surprised that no one is after banning smoking on the televised golf as it sends out bad messages to the fans.
After all we don't want our budding little Rory's & Spieth's to be walking the fairways smoking just because Uncle JimmyNez looks cool, do we?
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
jamielaing
Q-School Graduate
As I said, litter is an issue. I don't throw fag ends. There is an issue, certainly at my club, where the bins on course are the metal mesh with holes so are useless for ends. Generally you will not stop the litter unless you provide the alternative.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
I think golf is different to other sports.
1 - you are outside
2 - you don't smoke whilst swinging the club
I used to smoke and couldn't care less if someone smokes on the golf course. Smokers have to be able to smoke somewhere!
1 - you are outside
2 - you don't smoke whilst swinging the club
I used to smoke and couldn't care less if someone smokes on the golf course. Smokers have to be able to smoke somewhere!
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
That won't go down well with a lot of the knobs on here
You can't please all the people all the time.
I don't fully go for the 'take your cancer smoke somewhere else' argument either.
General pollution from cars, construction, business etc... is worse for you than a bit of second hand smoke. So if you work in a city, you should be thankful for being on a golf course with only a handful of smokers.
People complain about the mess cigarette butts make. I see more broken tees and twix wrappers on the golf course than cigarette butts.
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Let's be honest for some it's a bit more than "annoying" for them
It is a habit with extreme health risks both directly and passive
It's more than an "irritant" for people - it's a killer
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Snelly
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I don't like to see anyone smoking because cigarettes cause lung Cancer and kill people all the time, including some people that I was very fond of. I think anyone who smokes must be a bit crackers or not fully aware of what death via the Cancer route really looks like.
That said, I am not in favour of banning things generally and if you do want to fill your insides with toxic tar that will shorten or even end your life then the broad open spaces of a golf course are probably one of the better places to do this. Much better than poisoning others passively if indoors and again, with the caveat that you don't throw away your butts.
That said, I am not in favour of banning things generally and if you do want to fill your insides with toxic tar that will shorten or even end your life then the broad open spaces of a golf course are probably one of the better places to do this. Much better than poisoning others passively if indoors and again, with the caveat that you don't throw away your butts.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
No, you are right.
Nothing bad has ever happened to a third party because of someone else having had too much to drink.
I mean, if bad things happened when other were getting drunk we would have phrases like 'drink driving' in our vocabulary...
What about the multitude of fights that happen because people get absolutely smashed?
There are thousands of people that are affected by the downsides of drinking;
- a drunk parent who lashes out at their kids
- a drunk who can't keep a job or loses their house because of alcohol
- children that lose parents due to alcohol related diseases
The list of victims of drinking goes on and on and on.
The cost of drinking to society is insane as well. Just because it has been deemed an acceptable drug to put in your body and the Government has successfully cornered a way to regulate and tax the industry, does not mean that drinking alcohol does not have serious downsides.
I would 100% prefer to play golf next to someone who smoked a pack of fags during the round, than an individual who drank 2 beers, a hip flash and drove home afterwards.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
That's not true. There are many things that happened in society 35 years ago that still happen today.
We don't revolutionise society every year.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
...though I am more than happy to pick up Twix wrappers and carry them with me to the next bin - and will often tidy up broken tee pegs - I just can't touch old discarded fag ends.
jamielaing
Q-School Graduate
In a round of golf I will smoke at the absolute most 10 cigarettes. I (and I would imagine most smoking golfers) will light a cigarette after I have hit a drive as this gives me 250-300 yards in which to smoke it.
Ultimately I would be very surprised if my PP ever notice the smell from my cigarette as they are halfway down the fairway by the time I have lit my cigarette. If I catch them up I don't walk a touching distance away from them so they would be fine.
You are right that it is a killer when you are subjected to passive smoking. I wouldn't class someone smoking 10 cigarettes within 100 yards of you across an afternoon passive smoking however and would be mildly irritating at best. Much in the same way as spitting, swearing, shouting irritates me.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
Being more than happy to clean up after others shouldn't be the point though. Surely the idea is to not have rubbish littered on the course in the first place. This does relate to cigarette butts as well.
So what's the solution - ban smoking, ban eating, ban drinking and create biodegradable tees?
S
Snelly
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Ban dickheads.
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Most golf courses I seem to visit aren't full of litter - people seem to be able to put their empty cups etc in the bin
Yet see plenty of fag ends
Some on the edges of the green with a nice burn area
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
I do not believe that lung cancer is only caused by smoking or second hand smoke.
I believe that is a myth created by those that oppose the cigarette industry.
There will be more health damaging substances in our food chain than in cigarettes. e.g. all of the toxins that have been dumped in the sea, creating toxins in the fish we eat. Or what about the nuclear power plant in Japan, there was an expert saying that the toxins from that would cause cancer in those that ate fish exposed to the radiation.
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So all the scientific research has been done is just a myth ?!?
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
Did you actually read what I wrote before replying?
