Ban Smoking on Golf Courses

[Slime]

I agree. It contradicts all the players who work endlessly on their fitness and body strength. Also has negative connotations on young junior golfers like me.

I don't know anybody who works endlessly on their fitness and body strength, let alone a golfer!
I'm not sure you do, either.


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As you may have guessed from my bitter, grating and short posts. I am a smoker.

Calling for it to be banned? Seriously? And the irony, lots of the people calling for a ban, actually call smokers stupid!

There is no negative health consequences for you if someone your playing with is smoking. If you don't like the smell, instead of calling for a ban. Why don't you just ask the Fella/Lady if he'd mind going downwind, or away from you? Any normal person would be happy to oblige. Or if it really bothers you, you have the width of a fairway to walk down, away from said smoker.

I will say I detest people I see chucking fag butts on the course. It's no different from any other form of littering and is just rude and disrespectful towards the groundstaff. Stub them out and chuck them in the Bin when you get to one, it's not hard.

Just to correct one point

There will always be a negative consequence if you are in the vicinity of someone smoking both inside or outside - might well be very small

I used to smoke but stopped smoking on the golf course because I liked the company of my FC so didn't smoke whilst playing which put me on the road to quitting

 

[KenL]

Great post Charlie Webb.

I started this thread as I feel that golf is a sport. Smoking has no place in sport or, in my opinion, modern society.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've never had any issues with smokers on the course. Smokers, like drinkers and those that take recreational drugs are aware of the effects and the dangers and it's a decision they choose to make and they should have the freedom to do so on the course. I can't believe given the vastness of the area we play in out in the fresh (and it was bracing in the wind) air that it is going to make too much difference to those in the vicinity

 

[DanFST]

Just to correct one point

There will always be a negative consequence if you are in the vicinity of someone smoking both inside or outside - might well be very small

I won't rise to the bait, you are correct. However the effect is so tiny, going to a petrol station will most likely have more of a detrimental effect on your health.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I won't rise to the bait, you are correct. However the effect is so tiny, going to a petrol station will most likely have more of a detrimental effect on your health.

There was no bait to rise too

If someone is smoking in your vicinity the risk is always there - I used to smoke and at times people have been caught in a cloud.

 

[Fish]

I won't rise to the bait, you are correct. However the effect is so tiny, going to a petrol station will most likely have more of a detrimental effect on your health.

especially with a fag in the gob :smirk:

 

[Markw]

Great post Charlie Webb.

I started this thread as I feel that golf is a sport. Smoking has no place in sport or, in my opinion, modern society.

To a pro its a sport, to an amateur its a pastime!
smoking has no affect on performance at all to the fitness levels required to play golf.
Luckily this country allows the freedom to make your choices and how people choose to lead their life, live and let live.

 

[Markw]

There was no bait to rise too

If someone is smoking in your vicinity the risk is always there - I used to smoke and at times people have been caught in a cloud.

What is the risk?

 

[Markw]

http://atruegolfer.com/2011/08/cigarettes-and-golf/

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What is the risk?

In the extreme - Cancer from passive smoking

In the smallest sense - stinking of smoke

 

[Tashyboy]

Not read all of this blog but I don't smoke and don't mind smoking on the course, (here's the BUT bit) but standing on the tee and seeing nub ends all over the place really grates me. As does broken tees everywhere. I play my game among other things to help get rid of a bit of stress. Although when my tyrets kicks in so does the stress levels. Smokers know the risks so I don't think anyone is going to be educated by anything that is said on this blog.
BUT. My over riding memory of dealing with a smoker was when he had a heart attack and doing mouth to mouth on him was like kissing a full ashtray. Unfortunately he did not make it. About 42 yr old he was.

 

[Markw]

In the extreme - Cancer from passive smoking

In the smallest sense - stinking of smoke

Haha, you are trying to get a reaction!
Cancer from inhaling minute quantities of cig smoke that has already had most of the toxins removed? are all the non smokers dead now that frequented pubs and clubs years ago which were filled with a smog, how many people do you know died of passive smoking?

Unfortunately there is no life risk to smelling of smoke and actually probably no risk to smelling of smoke out in hundreds of acres of country air!
I have played with players with serious BO and others that constantly break wind, that's life so I get on with it!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Haha, you are trying to get a reaction!
Cancer from inhaling minute quantities of cig smoke that has already had most of the toxins removed? are all the non smokers dead now that frequented pubs and clubs years ago which were filled with a smog, how many people do you know died of passive smoking?

Unfortunately there is no life risk to smelling of smoke and actually probably no risk to smelling of smoke out in hundreds of acres of country air!
I have played with players with serious BO and others that constantly break wind, that's life so I get on with it!

Hence why I said in the "extreme"

Are you really trying to suggest that no one has died from passive smoking ?

http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/second-hand-smoke-fact-sheet

I know two people that have died from lung cancer despite never having a cig in their life but being exposed to second hand smoke

 

[Markw]

Hence why I said in the "extreme"

Are you really trying to suggest that no one has died from passive smoking ?

http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/second-hand-smoke-fact-sheet

I know two people that have died from lung cancer despite never having a cig in their life but being exposed to second hand smoke

One important quote from that website under number 6...

'There is no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Even low levels of secondhand smoke can be harmful. The only way to fully protect nonsmokers from secondhand smoke is to completely eliminate smoking in indoor spaces'

 

[DanFST]

I know two people that have died from lung cancer despite never having a cig in their life but being exposed to second hand smoke

It was the secondhand smoke that gave them the cancer? Or is it if lung cancer in non smokers had it's own category, it would still be in top 10 for fatal cancers. In modern society second hand smoke outdoors on a golf course is the least of your worries.

I would like to say I agree with the smoking ban, despite my argument above. But a line needs to be drawn.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

One important quote from that website under number 6...

'There is no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Even low levels of secondhand smoke can be harmful. The only way to fully protect nonsmokers from secondhand smoke is to completely eliminate smoking in indoor spaces'

So you now can see that second hand smoke is harmful and there will always be a risk of second hand smoke.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It was the secondhand smoke that gave them the cancer? Or is it if lung cancer in non smokers had it's own category, it would still be in top 10 for fatal cancers. In modern society second hand smoke outdoors on a golf course is the least of your worries.

I would like to say I agree with the smoking ban, despite my argument above. But a line needs to be drawn.

Yes it was the second hand smoke that caused their lung cancer and killed them.

 

[Markw]

So you now can see that second hand smoke is harmful and there will always be a risk of second hand smoke.

No I don't! there is no risk to second hand smoke when playing golf.

You are avoiding the fact that the website you provided states the risk is in enclosed spaces?

 

[tugglesf239]

This thread has nothing to do with the relationship between smoking and golf

It is nothing but a thinly veiled attack on smokers, that has been jumped on the bandwagon by other individuals.

Fellas

Chill out

Smoking is for winners and Chick's dig it.