Bad etiquette from the 'older generation'

KeefG

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Morning all, I know this subject has been done to death but its the 1st time i've endured it and commented on it so I thought it was worth a mention.

I went to my local course on Monday for a knock as I was considering joining next year as its a lot closer than my present club, on arrival in the car park it was pretty empty and I was expecting a nice quiet knock.

We pitched up on the 1st tee and me & my partner tee'd off as the group in front of us (2 ball) were on the green, the 1st is only a short par 4 of 215yds but the green is very elevated and small so I played it safe down the fairway, anyway my partner stuffed his tee shot into the cabbage and whilst we were looking a pair of seniors arrived on the tee. We spent no more than a minute looking before he gave up and took a drop. As we're walking up the fairway I can hear these 2 on the tee complaining about us taking too long, I didnt say anything just carried on, we reached the green and are just putting when a ball comes thumping onto the green and whizzes past us from these 2 seniors, no shouts of 'fore' no apologies or anything.

The 2nd is a longish par 5, we tee'd off and my partner wasnt very long off the tee, we were waiting on the fairway next to his ball as the 2 ball in front of us had lost a ball, as we were waiting these 2 appeared on the tee and promptly tee'd off with one of them going straight past us. Again I didnt say anything on this hole.

The 3rd is a driveable par 4 as the tee is very elevated, there is a massive bell next to the green for players to ring when they are clear, me & my partner are on the green and i'm putting for a birdie when a great big whack and a ball smacks my bag then a few seconds later as we're still on the green the 2nd ball from them comes trundling onto the green.

So as we walk off the green I can see them appearing over the hill and sarcastically ring the bell and then wait for them, as they walk down the hill I approach them and ask them what their problem is, at which point I get a mouthful for not letting them through on the 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A few choice words later (basically them saying as members they should have the right to go through over us pay & players lol) and off I pop to the 4th tee and tee off.

This whole process continues all the way around until it boils over on the 13th, we had tee'd off and were in the fairway waiting for the group in front to clear the green when these 2 tossers tee off and for the 2nd time hit my bag, at which point I take my driver out, tee this guys ball up in the fairway and (at this point I'd love to say I smashed it back over his head) sliced it massively OOB as I was that mad. Cue this pillock coming down the fairway waving his driver at me and wanting to square up to me for crying out loud!!!

Anyway, we get back to the clubhouse and I ask to speak to the general manager and I explain that I was considering joining but will now not bother if that is the calibre of members they have, the manager then explains that he has complaints about this group every month but as yet have not done anything about it, he apologised profusely and offered us a free round as compensation.

What is the deal with some of these seniors that they think they bloody own the place?????

Rant over, I feel better now!
 
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thats shocking behaviour, can I ask how old they were and how old you are?

I think many people here would have squared up at the beginning, these idiots could have maimed you or worse. Total neds IMO and need sorting by their club or members!
 
I'm 35 and I'd say these guys were both in their mid 60's ish, maybe a little older but not much.

It wouldnt have been a fair fight if I did square up, I'm bigger than the pair of them put together (Vig - button it lol)
 
Well done you. You must have some patience as I'm afraid i'd have been charging back up the fairway towards them after the second incident!

Being quite new to the game myself it amazes me the different attitudes I find between senior golfers with the more down to earth working class seniors having a very relaxed considerate approach but the more stuffy old school ones having this "do you know who I am" "we're better than you" attitude. P***es me right off.
 
I'm not defending their actions, but it was clear from the first hole that they wanted through. Why didn't you simply let them on their way? The day wouldn't have ended in confrontation, you wouldn't be angry and these two petty little men would have had their 'victory'.

I've learned over the years that discretion is the better part of valour.
 
LOL... can't believe it's being suggested you just let them through! There was nowhere for them to go to and would just reward bad behaviour...

You did exaclty as I would've done... maybe not sliced though :)

I'd kicked his ball in the whole on that short par 4 and got a free drink off him for his ace ;)
 
Because then these fuss will think the behaviour is ok, I would have gladly smashed every ball back at them after the third
 
Don't tar all Seniors with the same brush. I won't tar you with the same brush as very often used to condemn "pay and play" players who seem to have no course etiquette whatsoever.
 
Don't tar all Seniors with the same brush. I won't tar you with the same brush as very often used to condemn "pay and play" players who seem to have no course etiquette whatsoever.

You'll see from the 2nd to last sentence in my OP, I used the words "some of these seniors", I havent tarred them all with the same brush. And I'm not a pay & player (not that there is anything at all wrong with that), again as stated in the OP I was looking at moving clubs when my subs are due in April.
 
LOL... can't believe it's being suggested you just let them through!

So, having your round ruined to keep a two ball behind you is better than letting them on their way so you can relax and enjoy yourself?

I don't get it, I really don't.

Why not take the green fees, wipe your backside on it and eat it? That'd be more fun.
 
I would have waited for them to catch up and asked them politely not to do it again. If they did it again I would phone the clubhouse and asked someone in authority to come out on the course and have a word with the 2 ball and kick them off the course and out of the club if necessary.
No excuse whatsoever for that behaivour.
 
You'll see from the 2nd to last sentence in my OP, I used the words "some of these seniors", I havent tarred them all with the same brush. And I'm not a pay & player (not that there is anything at all wrong with that), again as stated in the OP I was looking at moving clubs when my subs are due in April.

My remarks were not aimed at you in particular but at a fairly prevalent attitude towards the "older players". You did identify them as "Seniors" rather than "other golfers".
You are, however, a "Pay and Play" player if you are not a member of the club. There are too many club members who are always on the lookout for non-members and are too ready to condemn the slightest hint of behaviour they deem unacceptable.
Live and let live - don't generalise by categorising other golfers as "Seniors" or "Pay and Play".
 
Must admit it can get me rather hot under the coller when these whipersnapers, seem to think its only senior golfers this applys to. We are all golfers the good and the bad. So lets keep age out of it. Eh children!
 
I don't think it matters if you are young or old if you are a kn*b then you are and thats that.

I think if it had been me I would have let them through, told them exactly what i thought of them and then complained after as well.
 
Age has very little to do with it but arrogance and bad manners does. Pick any age group you like and you'll find exactly the same attitudes within that group.

With regards to should you join there? If you like the course, and it suits where you live, then go ahead and join. A) You'll find the vast majority of members at any club are welcoming. B) If you go elsewhere you'll still find it has its fair share of ar53holes.

Personally, I'd have offered to shove it down his throat if he'd done it again, with the option to pick clean and place out of his ar53 it would be so far down.

Well done for keeping your cool as long as you did.
 
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