Apple iPad

[toonarmy]

Ethan, I normally find you talk sense. However, this is not the first time your love affair with Apple has blinded your judgement.

A Windows user, I imagine. And bitter, too.

Both actually - that's Windows and Mac, not bitter. Well done though for immediately sounding like a reactionary teenage Apple fanboy.

I don't have an iPad but I do have Macs and an iPhone, and they are much better products than the Windoze stuff.

Totally subjective comment. In my view, Android phones kick the iPhone's scrawny butt and if Macs are so wonderful, why have they spent the last 5 years pretending to be PCs?

Have you seen or used an iPad? If not, then your opinion is really not worth too much.

Yes, I have. And your logic is utterly fallacious.

Apple is now worth more than Microsoft and Steve Jobs could buy Newcastle United with his small change, so I think he is doing all right.

I'm sure there's a point in here somewhere...

As entirely predicted, daring to diss Apple has brought the fanboys out. As I have stated many times before, I am no 'fan' of any manufacturer, Apple or MS. They both have strengths, they both have weaknesses. Apple's rise has indeed forced MS into more progressive action and competition is always good.

However, Apple's greatest fan base still appears to be 'the general public', the majority of whom know little about technology in any detail (e.g. most people think Apple invented the mp3 player with the iPod).

Consquently, they tend to be impressed by shiny rather than asking 'so why exactly are you charging me more for a compressed and therefore inferior music product, without any physical ownership for me or transit costs for you, and then telling me that I don't own it at all really as I can only play it on some device that you've decided I can use it on - thanks for DRM, that's not in any way totally autocratic music distribution at all'.

Microsoft get (more than) their fair share of abuse. I'd just like to see Apple get their share for all the crap they foist onto people in the name of control. We, the consumer, get to tell them what we want so why is that the world lets Apple tell the consumer that this is what you'll get and you'll like it...or else.

P.S. don't assume that anyone who doesn't like Apple stuff is automatically a MS fan.

 

[Ethan]

I don't assume that everyone who dislikes Mac is a PC fan. Some are Linux fans. But I do assume that anyone who trots out the 'fanboy' term is a bit of a d***head. Perhaps I am wrong in this case.

It may be your opinion that Android phones kick the iphone butt, but others take a different view. I would agree that Android phones are much better than Windows Mobile though.

Macs trying to be PCs? What? I think you have that the other way round.

Microsoft deserve the abuse they get. Windows in an inherently insecure and creaky platform, and IE is a terrible and unsafe browser. The Mac hardware and software is much better built and conceived, and that is why it is better.

I use Macs and PCs every day, and I unfailingly prefer the Mac. Look at the number of people who switch from PC to Mac compared to the number going the other way.

The point about Jobs and his fortune means that whatever you think, millions of people think differently and Apple is a more successful company now than Microsoft.

 

[toonarmy]

Microsoft deserve the abuse they get. Windows in an inherently insecure and creaky platform, and IE is a terrible and unsafe browser. The Mac hardware and software is much better built and conceived, and that is why it is better.

And when more users start using Firefox or Opera or Safari, all of a sudden they turn out to be just as susceptible to hacking, failure and fraud. If Apple held the market dominance that MS has, then we'd see just how cronky their stuff is too.

The point about Jobs and his fortune means that whatever you think, millions of people think differently and Apple is a more successful company now than Microsoft.

That was rather my point though. Given the nature of society, it comes as no surprise that Apple are taking the lead now. Lots of people buying into something doesn't make it right...

...ask the people of Poland.

 

[Ethan]

Microsoft deserve the abuse they get. Windows in an inherently insecure and creaky platform, and IE is a terrible and unsafe browser. The Mac hardware and software is much better built and conceived, and that is why it is better.

And when more users start using Firefox or Opera or Safari, all of a sudden they turn out to be just as susceptible to hacking, failure and fraud. If Apple held the market dominance that MS has, then we'd see just how cronky their stuff is too.

This is a line often used by the Microsoft crew, that it is just a numbers game and the virus writers will soon turn their attention to Macs. But that is not true, though. Macs are not immune to attacks, but they are inherently more resistant than PCs, due to the Unix platform and the way in which the software applications relate to one another. PCs are much more vulnerable to widespread infection and damage and that is hard wired into the OS. Nothing you can do with a PC except add expensive and performance sapping bloatware antivirus. Malware doesn't work on Macs either.

I prefer a browser with a native Mac interface such as Safari or Camino, not Firefox. Doesn't matter though, since in a Mac, the browser is isolated from the OS unlike in a PC, so even if you do go to a dodgy site, it will not bring down your OS.

Many of the hacks touted in the press from time to time are highly technical hacks that pose only a theoretical risk to most Mac users.

 

[RGDave]

Just to bring some joy to the thread.
I give you

Fybrid for Ladies. Just what Ethan wants instead of another apple gadget.