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Generally yeah, pretty quick. I wouldn't have a clue what my greens stimp at and it's probably irrelevant when you factor in slopes and wind.
Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?
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Generally yeah, pretty quick. I wouldn't have a clue what my greens stimp at and it's probably irrelevant when you factor in slopes and wind.
3565
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Not really Homer has tried but it is hard when you have people who discount it with no knowledge. Taylor Made said that the white heads helped with better alignment to the golf ball. True or tosh? I don't know but not passing judgement on it as I've never tried or wanted to try it as I personally didn't like them....... And I've got no knowledge to if it's true.
3565
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I had a putt today and used the express read (don't ask) aimed it 3ft right down the slope right to left, and the wind blew it straight... It can't account for that but at least the ball ended up where the initial read was just that it bypassed the slope....
Robobum
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Must have got lost in the bleating
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
there is no one read! it depends on how hard you hit it. for a big breaking putt, there will be a window where you can put the ball and it will end up the hole depending on pace!
:thup: simples
:thup: simples
stevie_r
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Me neither, 18 different stimp readings would be a pain in the butt to remember during a round tbh
Foxholer
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There's normally only 1 line that gives this though!
No need to remember different stimps. Check the practice green and make your estimate. If different on 1st, then adjust. This process is exactly the same as 'traditional' method. It's the determining how much break to allow that's different.
You guys seem to be putting up barriers that don't exist - the British 'can't do' cf rest of world's 'can do'! Though factoring the wind is definitely a consideration. There may be a method (adjusting the % slope?) but that's a detail too deep for my limited knowledge of it.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
there is no "cant do" in my post. it talks about an area to put the ball and rely on pace to find the target. its arguably less limiting than a one line putt.
Foxholer
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No idea what you mean by that!
Remember it's greatest value/benefit is for medium length putts 8-20 footers, or longer. Sure there are several ways to sink the 3-footers, including taking all the break out of it!
Remember it's greatest value/benefit is for medium length putts 8-20 footers, or longer. Sure there are several ways to sink the 3-footers, including taking all the break out of it!
Robobum
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That's a whole new level of tosh - even by your usual standards. :thup:
SammmeBee
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I am surprised the majority of courses around here have big enough breaks to make it worth using and ever get quicker than 8/9 on the stimp to worry about it.
How do you apply the concept if you have the same breaking putt that is uphill or downhill and how do you apply to double breaking putts?
How do you apply the concept if you have the same breaking putt that is uphill or downhill and how do you apply to double breaking putts?
richart
Major Champion
So you can still use skill in reading a putt and allowing for wind. To me there are too many variable factors to take into account.I had a putt today and used the express read (don't ask) aimed it 3ft right down the slope right to left, and the wind blew it straight... It can't account for that but at least the ball ended up where the initial read was just that it bypassed the slope....
When I have played texas scrambles I have watched partners hit the same putt and it has broken differently. Surely a putt with slight side spin will react differently to one hit absolutely square.
Personally I try and hit every putt straight, aim at a point level with the hole behind the peak of the break. Is that too simple ?
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So you can still use skill in reading a putt and allowing for wind. To me there are too many variable factors to take into account.
When I have played texas scrambles I have watched partners hit the same putt and it has broken differently. Surely a putt with slight side spin will react differently to one hit absolutely square.
Personally I try and hit every putt straight, aim at a point level with the hole behind the peak of the break. Is that too simple ?
Keeping it simple seems a better method IMO
Blue in Munich
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Well if they make everything then that's only 18 putts a round, surely…...
One Planer
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So you can still use skill in reading a putt and allowing for wind. To me there are too many variable factors to take into account.
When I have played texas scrambles I have watched partners hit the same putt and it has broken differently. Surely a putt with slight side spin will react differently to one hit absolutely square.
Personally I try and hit every putt straight, aim at a point level with the hole behind the peak of the break. Is that too simple ?
This is the point I wanted to make.
Do you have to have a semi-solid, repeatable putting stroke before you take the course?
3565
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So you can still use skill in reading a putt and allowing for wind. To me there are too many variable factors to take into account.
When I have played texas scrambles I have watched partners hit the same putt and it has broken differently. Surely a putt with slight side spin will react differently to one hit absolutely square.
Personally I try and hit every putt straight, aim at a point level with the hole behind the peak of the break. Is that too simple ?
Aimpoint does not help with your putting stroke. You can read the line perfectly no matter how you do it but if you don't start the ball on your line and with speed you'll miss. This system allows you with certain parameters work out where your Aimpoint has to be. Simple as that.
Example, your course, on a stimp of 9 if I have a 10ft left to right putt on a slope of 1% (relatively flat) I aim 3" left of the hole. If the slope is 4% (classed as severe) I aim 21" left. Now the same putt but on a stimp of 12 which for the uk is very quick on a slope of 4% how much further left do you think you need to aim? I know, I've done it and more importantly it works. Now whether I hole it or not that depends if I putt a good stroke, aimed right and the right speed plus all other factors outside of your control the golfing gods decide what happens to your ball.
3565
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seriously? Does that mean you can't take to the golf course if you've not got a semi solid repeatable swing?
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What if it's left to right the right to left and then left to right again - do you need gage every single slope
I can see the pros doing it and walking up and down their line but a guy in a Saturday swindle ?! I can see that slowing everything up - especially if they got out some chart
3565
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Yes you can work it out. What's more important to you in your game? Going round in the least amount of strokes or the time it takes for you to get round? Which will win you comps and lower your hc?
One Planer
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The point I'm making, or trying to make, what's the point in going to what is, essentially, a green reading course if you can't put what you're taught into practice because your stroke isn't the same from one putt to the next. Yes I know that could be said for most amateurs, but I'm sure you'll agree, some amateurs putt Pretty well.
It's all well and good being able to step onto the green, use your Aimpoint knowledge to read the green and find the correct line, only for you to push the ball 3ft off line and miss the hole by a bus ride.
IMHO, if you have a repeatable stroke you will get the best out of a course like Aimpoint, where as if your putting looks like, push, pull, push, straight you won't get the best out of it.
