Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?

[3565]

Homer religiously kept stats using SS2, he posted about using that software on a daily basis about one part of the game or another - so he has got stats. Fine, he doesn't keep them anymore but surely you would have a snapshot over a couple or few rounds?! Within 30 secs I could recount the putts from last 2 rounds to at least get an idea.

Making more mid range putts would make a dent in my h'cap. I've said a few times on here that I don't convert enough birdie chances. I was genuinely interested in seeing if the method had demonstrated a tangible improvement rather than a feel.

Never mind

a recent round in January winter stableford.

PAR 4 4 4 4 3 5 4 4 3 35 4 4 4 5 3 5 4 3 4 36 71
SCOR. 3 6 5 4 4 4 5 5 4 40 4 3 3 4 3 5 3 2 4 31 71


Putts 1 2 2 2 3 1 2 2 2 17 2 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 12 1.6/29

To date my putts per hole 1.75
GIR 1.88

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Can I just point out that Liverpoolphil doesn't work for the FBI & you don't have to put up with interrogation :thup:

Can I point out that once again you quote me in a thread with zero relevance to the thread :thup:

 

[garyinderry]

One method I have seen being used by a pro is first finding the straight putt on the green and then pacing until you reach your ball then use the amount of steps to judge the break and how far left or right the aim needs to be

ive seen that but I still don't get how it can read EVERY green. it just doesn't compute with me. loads of greens have subtle breaks both ways, or a little break here, then straight, then more break. I just cant see how a system can read this. then there is the pace.

I don't know. in a way, I kind of a agree with SILH. if someone was to show me the exact line of every putt, I would feel it takes away some of the challenge. at the same time, there is no one line, it all depends on PACE!!!!

 

[Pin-seeker]

People use different putting techniques,it's really not a big deal. You don't have to start producing stats just to justify why you do it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

ive seen that but I still don't get how it can read EVERY green. it just doesn't compute with me. loads of greens have subtle breaks both ways, or a little break here, then straight, then more break. I just cant see how a system can read this. then there is the pace.

I don't know. in a way, I kind of a agree with SILH. if someone was to show me the exact line of every putt, I would feel it takes away some of the challenge. at the same time, there is no one line, it all depends on PACE!!!!

I have no idea how it works on every green also

And your last statement is spot on - it's all about the pace. Get the pace right and you won't go far wrong ( something I have improved on )

 

[3565]

All derived from the golf channels aimpoint ?

Mark Sweeney the originator of Aimpoint let golf channel use the system to show it. John Graham is an avid Aimpoint and certified teacher.

 

[Foxholer]

So would you expect a successful method of putting to provide better results in comps and a decrease in handicap ?

Define 'successful'!

How would you measure whether it is or it isn't?

How would you know that the results weren't influenced by other factors?

As for the query about Pace...

One of the fundamentals about the tool is that the calculation uses a pace such that if the ball fails to go in it goes past the hole by a certain amount (6 inches I believe). The other truism is 'you can't beat gravity'! Bermuda style grain notwithstanding, those are the only variables required - as their computer modeled PGA used tool demonstrates!

 

[3565]

I have no idea how it works on every green also

And your last statement is spot on - it's all about the pace. Get the pace right and you won't go far wrong ( something I have improved on )

Are you sure it's ALL about pace? You really think it is?

 

[HawkeyeMS]

One method I have seen being used by a pro is first finding the straight putt on the green and then pacing until you reach your ball then use the amount of steps to judge the break and how far left or right the aim needs to be

The method I use is to walk up the slope until I find what I think is a straight putt and imagine a line from the hole to where I am standing. I then go back to my ball and imagine a line from my ball to the midway point of the straight putt line, that's my aim line. It's not an exact science as the break won't be uniform for the entire length of the putt but it is close enough and seems to get me on a good line.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Define 'successful'!

How would you measure whether it is or it isn't?

How would you know that the results weren't influenced by other factors?

Successful - provide the positive results you want

You can measure it yourself - one person has already said it has improved his handicap by 2 shots :thup:

 

[Imurg]

People use different putting techniques,it's really not a big deal. You don't have to start producing stats just to justify why you do it.

But surely you would want to see some form of improvement otherwise why use it...?

 

[fundy]

When inside that are your misses the same , short, long , high or low ?

Mine used to be high - lots of missed putts above the hole. Found my putter face was open on impact

Surely you would miss most putts on the right hand side, rather than the high side (which could either be left or right)?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The method I use is to walk up the slope until I find what I think is a straight putt and imagine a line tfrom the hole to where I am standing. I then go back to my ball and imagine a line from my ball to the midway point of the straight putt line, that's my aim line. It's not an exact science as the break won't be uniform for the entire length of the putt but it is close enough and seems to get me on a good line.

I just look at the line - then just try to imagine the break and the pace needed then hit it

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Surely you would miss most posts on the right hand side, rather than the high side (which could either be left or right)?

Sorry yes - right side ( always call it the high side )

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I just look at the line - then just try to imagine the break and the pace needed then hit it

That's what I used to do but found I wasn't allowing enough break. Not sure how I came up with this method, it must be the engineer in me, but it seems to work better which is all that matters

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

at the same time, there is no one line, it all depends on PACE!!!!

Spot on :thup:

A mate of mine absolutely smashes the ball at the hole whereas my putts are much more dead weight, we can take completely different lines for the same putt.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's what I used to do but found I wasn't allowing enough break. Not sure how I came up with this method, it must be the engineer in me, but it seems to work better which is all that matters

Exactly - it works for you

I do like to give it a bit more to take a lot of the break of it

 

[Pin-seeker]

But surely you would want to see some form of improvement otherwise why use it...?

I agree 100%.I just don't think you need to produce stats to make some one else happy. Homer uses it but he hasn't come on here saying we should all use it & it will transform our game.

 

[3565]

See that wasn't hard was it - what was your improvement ?

Went from 3 and got to 1.6 have since gone up due to swing changes plus playing comps during winter period. Although I have posted a round earlier showing some stats.

 

[Robobum]

I agree 100%.I just don't think you need to produce stats to make some one else happy. Homer uses it but he hasn't come on here saying we should all use it & it will transform our game.

But those who are interested have asked how it has improved his putting.......zero evidence that it has.

It's not a case of religiously churning out stats, but you've got to have at least a handle on it? Surely?