Anyone Bought Fake Gear?

[GB72]

Out of interest, anyone know how the rules treat fake gear.

Lets say I have (unlikely I know) won the club championship only to find out that my driver is a fake. I would assume that a fake driver is non conforming so is that an immediate DQ? Is it the same for using fake balls etc.

 

[Imurg]

Just because a club is a fake it doesn't automatically follow that it's illegal to the Rules of Golf.
It may well conform - having said that, if it doesn't appear on the conforming list can you use it..?

Where's a Rules Official when you need one.....?

 

[MadAdey]

Tried a Scotty Cameron Studio Select Kombi out in Direct Golf, absolutly loved it and it suioted me to a tee. I then found a new one on Ebay and got it for about £40 cheaper than Direct Golf. Really happy I then found I could not get on with it so put it back on Ebay. 2 days later I got an Email from Ebay saying it had ben removed as it was a fake and Titleist had requested it be removed because of this. I contacted Titleist and they told me how they noticed it was a fake. I would never have realised if they had not told me what to look at. Maybe that was why it felt like crap when I tried using it.Anyone want a Scotty Cameron for £50 delivered........LOL

 

[ADB]

Tried a Scotty Cameron Studio Select Kombi out in Direct Golf, absolutly loved it and it suioted me to a tee. I then found a new one on Ebay and got it for about £40 cheaper than Direct Golf. Really happy I then found I could not get on with it so put it back on Ebay. 2 days later I got an Email from Ebay saying it had ben removed as it was a fake and Titleist had requested it be removed because of this. I contacted Titleist and they told me how they noticed it was a fake. I would never have realised if they had not told me what to look at. Maybe that was why it felt like crap when I tried using it.Anyone want a Scotty Cameron for £50 delivered........LOL

How did they know it was fake - might be useful for others to know for similar purchases?

 

[MadAdey]

Out of interest, anyone know how the rules treat fake gear. Lets say I have (unlikely I know) won the club championship only to find out that my driver is a fake. I would assume that a fake driver is non conforming so is that an immediate DQ? Is it the same for using fake balls etc.

That is a good question. With it being fake is not something that I would have thought would make it illegal to use. It would be the fact that you do not know if it conforms to the rules. You could get a fake TM driver for instance that has a COR of 100 say, but the printing on the head says R11s, that we all know is a conforming driver.

 

[Hack-Man-Hob]

Aye DVD's.

I miss the dvd man, we have an memory stick man now it's not the same.

 

[Rooter]

I miss the dvd man, we have an memory stick man now it's not the same.

its higher tech round here! we have an FTP site man!

 

[duncan mackie]

Out of interest, anyone know how the rules treat fake gear.

Lets say I have (unlikely I know) won the club championship only to find out that my driver is a fake. I would assume that a fake driver is non conforming so is that an immediate DQ? Is it the same for using fake balls etc.

The rules don't specifically cover 'fakes' however they are pretty clear (in themselves!)

It's your responsibility to ensure your equipement complies with the rules

Basically your clubs are required to comply with the provisions, specifications and interpretations set out in them (Appendix II covers these).

In addition, the Committee may require (in their Conditions of Competition) that any driver used is on the conforming driver list.

So if your club doesn't meet the specifications you would be subject to DQ if you used it during a round.

 

[MadAdey]

How did they know it was fake - might be useful for others to know for similar purchases?

<br>
<br>It was the plate that is on the bottom. This is not a picture of mine below, just put it on to show people what I am on about.<br>
<br><img src="http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=9041&amp;stc=1" attachmentid="9041" alt="" id="vbattach_9041" class="previewthumb"><br><br>I can't remember exactly what it was that was wrong now as it was a while ago. But they told me that when you look at these on a fake there is always something wrong, not always obvious though to the untrained eye. <br><br>Some of the things they advised to do next time where these:<br><br>1: Make sure any pictures you see are actual pictures of the item not stock pictures copied from the Titleist website.<br>2: Get enough pictures to get a clear up close 360 view of the item so you can check it against pictures on the Titleist website.<br>3: Check what country the actual seller is located.<br>4: Get the serial and contact Titleist with it. They can tell you where that was sold at. Just because it has a serial number on it, it may not be kosha. Basically if that serial number was distributed to a shop in Australia, how can someone in the UK be selling it as a brand new item.<br>5: Has it got the correct grip fitted.<br>6: Is that person located in the UK<br>7: Is the price too good to be true.<br><br>There are more things I was told, most of which I would say is common sense. I just do not want someone else parting with that sort of money like I did to find out it is fake. My big problem was that it was outside of the 45 day period on Ebay, so they would not do anything about me being stung in the first place. But when I re-listed it and it got removed I was then told by Ebay that legal action could be taken if I tried to sell it again.&nbsp;

 

[HawkeyeMS]

You been to the Silk Market in Beijing? You can kit yourself out with a new set of clubs, iron, clothes, waterproofs for about £100. And the strange thing is I did see people buying the clubs.

My Father-in-law works in China and often brings back fakes from the silk market. A lot of the non golf stuff is very good but the ProV1s he bought me were shocking. The box was fine, the balls themselves were another matter.

 

[Garesfield ACE]

Apparently Ive been done twice on E Bay with drivers....A well renowned golf company said they were fakes sent them back to me.I forwarded them both onto to another well known golf company and they took them no problems!!!

 

[mykweb]

My dad bought a Ping G10 driver from a Golf Club Pro in Glasgow. The driver had been out around 6 months at the time. The Pro had received it as a trade in. My dad had been on the hunt for a decent trade in pretty much since its launch.

Anyway. My dad had it for around 2 weeks when during a round my dad stood on the Tee at the 14th hole. He swung the club and came into contact with the ball and two objects flew forward. Immediately I thought he had melted the Ball and split it.

On closer inspection the head had come off the shaft. My dad took it to a local golf shop in Edinburgh to get it fixed. The shop owner was surprised a new ish ping driver would do this and he called his Ping rep who confirmed the club serial number was a clone and the driver was a fake.

My dad never got his money back and the pro shop who sold the driver went out of business around 3 weeks after the incident and his small claim was never upheld.

My dad eventually fixed the driver himself with some very strong glue and continued to melt it down the fairway until a year later when he snapped the shaft in pure rage. He now has a very genuine RBZ driver bought from AG.

 

[ahandle]

one time I was loan a fake driver and the head came flying off during one of the swings.

 

[MadAdey]

Can one of the moderators please delete my post @ 49 please as I do not know what went wrong with that....

 

[MadAdey]

How did they know it was fake - might be useful for others to know for similar purchases?

It was the plate that is on the bottom. This is not a picture of mine below, just put it on to show people what I am on about.


I can't remember exactly what it was that was wrong now as it was a while ago. But they told me that when you look at these on a fake there is always something wrong, not always obvious though to the untrained eye. The pro in my shop had a quick look at it as he is one of these people that loves collecting putters and he did not notice it was fake, not until I told him it was and he looked at it closer. He hit a putt with it and said it felt nothing like a Scotty.

Some of the things they advised to do next time where these and they would apply to any manufacturer.
1: Make sure any pictures you see are actual pictures of the item, not stock pictures copied from the Titleist website.
2: Get enough pictures to get a clear up close 360 view of the item so you can check it against pictures on the Titleist website.
3: Check what country the seller is located.
4: Get the serial and contact Titleist with it. They can tell you where that was sold at. Just because it has a serial number on it, it may not be kosha. Basically if that serial number was distributed to a shop in Australia, how can someone in the UK be selling it as a brand new item.
5: Has it got the correct grip and headcover fitted for that model. As he said that is quite common with putters.
6: Can you contact them directly.
7: Is the price too good to be true.

There are more things I was told, most of which I would say is common sense. I just do not want someone else parting with that sort of money like I did to find out it is fake. My big problem was that it was outside of the 45 day period on Ebay, so they would not do anything about me being stung in the first place. But when I re-listed it and it got removed I was then told by Ebay that legal action could be taken if I tried to sell it again.

The bloke from Titleist that I spoke to did tell me that the department that deal with fake items do actually give things out to people that report suspect items being sold on the internet. This must hurt manufacturers, as I purchased that putter and hated the feel, so did a couple of my regular playing partners. Not a very good advertisement for a high end item like a Scotty when people try what they think is genuine and say it feels like crap. Would that make you want to go out and part with £200?