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If they miss out by a point. I'm sure there are far more games where they've drawn or lost that would have come of a surprise. It was a shocking game to watch. But it was tactics. He is driven by a desire to succeed and CL in niw the target so he went for the tactics that assist that best.

Plenty of teams have blown it by going to gung ho. Madrid this weekend could have done with shutting up shop when they equalised for example. Boring doesn't win fans. But it can help with trophies (arsenals 4th place in this case).

I didn't suggest they went gung ho, but there's a difference between having a go and that tonight. Like I said if any team done it to him he'd be crying to the media and like lap dogs they'd be hanging onto every last word.

It's a result business I suppose.
 
Hes back.

Well I quite enjoyed that for a derby, form a City point of view, well we had a go.

From a Utd point of view, having seen some of the fantastic football that fergies teams played, I would be gutted watching that. BBC shows the touches they had in the second half. One touch in the City box. Is that the best you can get out of those players.

Kompany is a rock and if Rashford improves he will have learned a lot tonight.

Fellani being banned could be massive for the rags.
 
It may not be pretty to watch but Jose got it spot on last night.
They came away from a game where they were the underdog with a point.
Now top 4 is in there own hands.
 
I didn't suggest they went gung ho, but there's a difference between having a go and that tonight. Like I said if any team done it to him he'd be crying to the media and like lap dogs they'd be hanging onto every last word.

It's a result business I suppose.

I agree about that. He's a hypocrite as are most managers tbh. But he has form. He's happy to put in a performance like that if he thinks it's what's required.
 
I knew he'd adopt those tactics, so much so I covered the draw, no goalscorer,nil nil, draw/draw, and I had a saver on Yernited just in case.......

With all of that attacking talent in your side it really is a waste. Are you still sure he's producing more than LVG did?

With all of that attacking talent in your side it really is a waste. Are you still sure he's producing more than LVG did?[/QUOTE]

Yip, most would have had the bore draw.

I agree, re the attacking talent in the side. I'd always prefer us to have a go. I was hoping for a bit more energy like against Chelsea. I've been impressed with Young when he has played, but he was probably deemed to 'attacking' for yesterdays match.

We are a better side under Jose than our previous 2 managers. No doubt. Maybe us Utd fans need to accept that Jose will have matches where he is tactically playing for draw........ I think I'd be more accepting of this if we had turned the home draws into wins !!!
 
Yip, most would have had the bore draw.

I agree, re the attacking talent in the side. I'd always prefer us to have a go. I was hoping for a bit more energy like against Chelsea. I've been impressed with Young when he has played, but he was probably deemed to 'attacking' for yesterdays match.

We are a better side under Jose than our previous 2 managers. No doubt. Maybe us Utd fans need to accept that Jose will have matches where he is tactically playing for draw........ I think I'd be more accepting of this if we had turned the home draws into wins !!!



TBF to Jose it is his first season with you and you're looking at 1 Trophy won, possibly European silverware and possibly top 4, with the recent issues since Fergie left I think he's over achieved in his first season and will have you challenging for the title next season.
 
Would I be happy to pay to watch that as a Utd fan, no thanks. Kid yourselves otherwise but that was dreadful considering the team they have. Great post on the BBC website last night, set up to defend, one man up front, long balls up to the one player, play for set pieces and corners. Jose Mourinho or Tony Pullis? Still laughing at that one. Mighty Utd, ha ha ha.
 
TBF to Jose it is his first season with you and you're looking at 1 Trophy won, possibly European silverware and possibly top 4, with the recent issues since Fergie left I think he's over achieved in his first season and will have you challenging for the title next season.

Whoa whoa whoa ..... don't forget the charity shield as well ;)

I agree he has had a decent first season and should be pushing for the title next season. We have improved. He'll be tested if Zlatan leaves as I don't think Martial and Rashford have as many goals in them.
 
Lucas moves but it still doesn't help Lovren isn't aware of what's going on around him. Benteke ended up directly in front of Lovren.

Zonal or man marking it doesn't matter when the same players are switching off at set pieces time and time again.

Klopp doesnt have a clue How To defend?? That's a myth.

There was a clear plan on how they were going to defend set pieces, it wasn't Klopp's fault that those players switched off again.

It's going to be a massive summer for recruitment
Spending money already, Lovren new contract worth £100K per week :rofl:
 
Would I be happy to pay to watch that as a Utd fan, no thanks. Kid yourselves otherwise but that was dreadful considering the team they have. Great post on the BBC website last night, set up to defend, one man up front, long balls up to the one player, play for set pieces and corners. Jose Mourinho or Tony Pullis? Still laughing at that one. Mighty Utd, ha ha ha.

Dreadful wasn't it???? And all that diving all over the place, OMG I couldn't, watch that every week! And Sane????? What a girl. pulled out of 50/50 challenges, in fact most of them did. Utter garbage. That was the first full game I've watched in years. I think I give it a few more before I watch another. You can send all them useless foreign players home. If that what they call football nowadays you can keep it. Awful.
 
Dreadful wasn't it???? And all that diving all over the place, OMG I couldn't, watch that every week! And Sane????? What a girl. pulled out of 50/50 challenges, in fact most of them did. Utter garbage. That was the first full game I've watched in years. I think I give it a few more before I watch another. You can send all them useless foreign players home. If that what they call football nowadays you can keep it. Awful.


On the phone to a pal this morning and he said he has never seen as many rammel foreign footballers as he has done this year. He reckons they are earning a fortune and would not get a game in italy. Spain. Germany etc
 
Spending money already, Lovren new contract worth £100K per week :rofl:

Investment Group protecting their "investment" shocker.

Buy a replacement for £30m+ or keep him for £1m ?? Yeah alright.
 
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Jose played for a point you may not like it but it worked.
That point may get him in CL before Liverpool
City did not do enough to win.
Cant understand Aguero coming short then nobody in the box.
Sane and Sterling poor tonight.
Prety poor game really expected more from the Derby.
Fellani what a prat but Aguero would not win a fight in a playground is this clever or cheating as Sanchez has taken some stick for diving I think this is just as bad.



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I hope Mourinho is as vocal next time his players exaggerate as he is now. I won't hold my breath though.
 
Jurgen Klopp's commitment to banter continues to be unparalleled, as Dejan Lovren signs a new 4-year, £100k-a-week deal at Liverpool.
 
Or they might miss out on CL by 1pt because of that gutless effort.

With that squad of players surely they can do better than park the bus. He'd be the first one to complain if any of the other big sides done it to him.
The thing is though his players followed his orders.
Thats why none of the players are to blame. Fellani excepted.
Liverpool could learn a lot from this game , how to defend properly.
For Jose this is a great result as this was the plan.
Fans might not like it but that's the way he is.
 
The thing is though his players followed his orders.
Thats why none of the players are to blame. Fellani excepted.
Liverpool could learn a lot from this game , how to defend properly.
For Jose this is a great result as this was the plan.
Fans might not like it but that's the way he is.

I think he's expected to be more attack minded as ManU coach generally but given the injury list and top 4 opportunity there to aim for after this good run of results with only 4 or 5 games left he is absolutely right to play for a point at Etihad, that is a good result for any EPL team and was good management by Jose imo. ECL qualification would be a great effort for Jose and pretty lucrative in both adding revenue but also being able to recruit top players over the summer.
 
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