And, we're off.....2016/17

[Dan2501]

Finally something interesting in this match. Mkhitaryan is class.

 

[Dan2501]

Haha make that 2-0. Ibra. Leicester really need to change something. A lot is made of losing Kante but don't think he'd make an ounce of different in this team ATM, they're just playing awfully.

 

[Pin-seeker]

What are the UTD fans on here's thoughts on Pogba?
I actually like him,but at the minute it looks like they've paid massively over the odds for him.

 

[Slime]

Forty minutes of total dross, during which time Mata could easily have been sent off, and then BOOM ..................... it's 2-0.
Good tactical change by JM, it must be said.

What are the UTD fans on here's thoughts on Pogba?
I actually like him,but at the minute it looks like they've paid massively over the odds for him.

I think he's potentially awesome.
It's only his first full season back and it's a far cry from the Italian league.
He has to realise that just because he's the world's most expensive player it doesn't automatically mean that he's the world's best player.
I think he'll be a very sound investment.

 

[sawtooth]

A good number of managers with the same amount of money being spent and with some of the Arsenal players would have won the league for Arsenal.

Is that right? What about the money Liverpool has spent and the good many managers that you've had?

Is that why Liverpool haven't won the league in over 25 years. And you are still no nearer winning it today with supposedly a better manager.

You will see what I mean in 10 years when you still haven't won it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is that right? What about the money Liverpool has spent and the good many managers that you've had?

Is that why Liverpool haven't won the league in over 25 years. And you are still no nearer winning it today with supposedly a better manager.

You will see what I mean in 10 years when you still haven't won it.

If Rafa was given the same amount of money that Rodgers and Kenny was given then I believe he would have won the title - Rodgers wasn't good enough , Hodgson wasn't good and Kenny had been out of the game for a long time.

Liverpool have been poorly managed and spent poorly for 20+ years now and that's why we haven't won the league.

I can admit that Sean but it's quite clear you can't admit the failings within Arsenal

And yes If Klopp , Pochettino , Koeman , Pep , Conte were at Arsenal over the last 3/5 years they would have won the title imo

 

[anotherdouble]

Come on Utd. I have baked them to score more than 3 and they have been dicking around for last 20 mins

 

[SaintHacker]

Come on Utd. I have baked them to score more than 3 and they have been dicking around for last 20 mins

Try roasting them next time instead...

 

[anotherdouble]

Try roasting them next time instead...

That might get me better results I supposed. I should of backed them really

 

[Slime]

United were average ..................... and still won at a canter.
If Leicester don't get relegated this season, they probably will next season.
They were awful and clueless.
Three points off fourth spot, that'll do!

 

[sawtooth]

If Rafa was given the same amount of money that Rodgers and Kenny was given then I believe he would have won the title - Rodgers wasn't good enough , Hodgson wasn't good and Kenny had been out of the game for a long time.

Liverpool have been poorly managed and spent poorly for 20+ years now and that's why we haven't won the league.

I can admit that Sean but it's quite clear you can't admit the failings within Arsenal

And yes If Klopp , Pochettino , Koeman , Pep , Conte were at Arsenal over the last 3/5 years they would have won the title imo

Not IMO we will just have to see what magical wonders Klopp, Pochettino, and Koeman can work with their respective clubs in 3-5 years.

Pep, Conte and Mourinho - I would expect them to win as has been the case with Chelsea, City , Utd in the past 10-12 years. That's kind of the point I am making.

You only have to look back and see who has actually won the premier league outside the super rich 3. Not many Spurs, Liverpool, Everton wins from what I have seen in the past 25 years. Infact none.

Say what you think might have happened but at the end of the day we have to work with the cold hard facts.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not IMO we will just have to see what magical wonders Klopp, Pochettino, and Koeman can work with their respective clubs in 3-5 years.

Pep, Conte and Mourinho - I would expect them to win as has been the case with Chelsea, City , Utd in the past 10-12 years. That's kind of the point I am making.

You only have to look back and see who has actually won the premier league outside the super rich 3. Not many Spurs, Liverpool, Everton wins from what I have seen in the past 25 years. Infact none.

Say what you think might have happened but at the end of the day we have to work with the cold hard facts.

Yep and the cold hard facts are that Arsenal haven't won the league for over a decade , they have spent millions of pounds in that same period but still have glaring gaps in the team , Leicester managed to win the league without spending millions upon millions

Stop blaming the money.

All the over Arsenal fans on here can see there is a problem - why can't you ? Why do you continue to look to deflect the issue onto money ? Are you that Wenger blind to not being able to see it ?

 

[Papas1982]

Not IMO we will just have to see what magical wonders Klopp, Pochettino, and Koeman can work with their respective clubs in 3-5 years.

Pep, Conte and Mourinho - I would expect them to win as has been the case with Chelsea, City , Utd in the past 10-12 years. That's kind of the point I am making.

You only have to look back and see who has actually won the premier league outside the super rich 3. Not many Spurs, Liverpool, Everton wins from what I have seen in the past 25 years. Infact none.

Say what you think might have happened but at the end of the day we have to work with the cold hard facts.

Klopp poch and koeman are all managing clubs with far inferior resources than Arsenal. If any of them win the league whilst Wenger is still in charge they would be exceeding expectation.

 

[Fish]

Just looked at next week's fixtures, after Hull held Utd at OT and then beat L'pool today, is it truly a home banker for Arsenal at home?

Just as things aren't quite going right for you, you might think home advantage holds the key, but will it be enough for Liverpool to stop Spurs pressing.

Utd should put Watford to the sword and dependent on tomorrow, things may be a change-in.

City away to Bournemouth who let in 6 goals today, with City's firepower, if it turns up, it could be another grubbing.

Never a good trip away to Burnley, tough place to play but I think results elsewhere will support us if we only draw, I can't see us losing and obviously a win would be very nice, a very early goal could be key to this game.

That pack could be well shuffled again next, especially if the Manchester twins both win tomorrow.

Well the Manchester teams won and there's nothing between 6th & 4th now and it's all to play for to get into the CL next season, some would think there's a couple of home bankers next week, but are they when teams they are playing are looking to secure either their top 4 place, challenge for the title or fight for survival.

It's just got even more interesting but who's got the bottle to see it through 🤔

 

[pokerjoke]

Yep and the cold hard facts are that Arsenal haven't won the league for over a decade , they have spent millions of pounds in that same period but still have glaring gaps in the team , Leicester managed to win the league without spending millions upon millions

Stop blaming the money.

All the over Arsenal fans on here can see there is a problem - why can't you ? Why do you continue to look to deflect the issue onto money ? Are you that Wenger blind to not being able to see it ?

Your like a stuck record Phil going over the same argument for days on end.

In another thread you mentioned how the forum was getting bad well you are one of the major culprits.

 

[sawtooth]

Yep and the cold hard facts are that Arsenal haven't won the league for over a decade , they have spent millions of pounds in that same period but still have glaring gaps in the team , Leicester managed to win the league without spending millions upon millions

Stop blaming the money.

All the over Arsenal fans on here can see there is a problem - why can't you ? Why do you continue to look to deflect the issue onto money ? Are you that Wenger blind to not being able to see it ?

Yes millions of pounds when the other clubs have spent hundreds of millions of pounds.

Precisely why Liverpool have failed for 25 years and continue to fail.

You could have kept Sterling and Suarez if you could afford to pay them enough. Just saying.

 

[pokerjoke]

United were average ..................... and still won at a canter.
If Leicester don't get relegated this season, they probably will next season.
They were awful and clueless.
Three points off fourth spot, that'll do!

Feel for Leicester really do hope they come through.

Average Utd yes but I bet some thought Leicester might just do something,however Utd looking very in control of most games now which is good.

 

[pokerjoke]

What are the UTD fans on here's thoughts on Pogba?
I actually like him,but at the minute it looks like they've paid massively over the odds for him.

The price tag means nothing really he has settled in nicely.
I must admit I thought he would be better than he has been so far but I believe he will get a lot better,treats the game as he is on the training field sometimes but as the games get bigger I think he will rise to the occasion more.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Look Phil,Sawtooth doesn't agree with you.
It's a difference of opinion,any chance of you just letting it go?

 

[Fish]

Feel for Leicester really do hope they come through.

Average Utd yes but I bet some thought Leicester might just do something,however Utd looking very in control of most games now which is good.

I'm not sure being in control is good enough, there's something lacking at Utd, there's no sharpness or anything dynamic happening enough, they just grind away, ok that's getting them results and they've worked their way into contention but only because some of those teams above them have had some shockingly poor results of late for the positions there in, otherwise Utd would be well off the pace and there would be a bigger breakaway of the top 5.