And, we're off.....2016/17

[Fish]

I'd like to see Batshuayi stay,would Dembele get any more game time if he came?
It's hard when Costa's in such good form.

Getting Dembele to settle in now for Costa replacement rather than wait until the summer and a possible increase in value and/or more competition, get him now IMO is good business.

 

[Jensen]

I was joking mate, Paul was asking why I wasn't watching the Arsenal match and I said that it wasn't on Sky. Then I discovered the Liverpool match was on BT and although I pay for that I couldn't watch it abroad on Sky Go .

Ah, egg 🍳 on my face there, only hope it's sunny side up !

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I have a feeling we'll get Dembele which will release batshuayi to West Ham but we need Craig Gordon also so that Bergovic can be released to Bournemouth, I can see some kind of deal being done which must involve them both or none at all until the summer, to which there may be other options available then and they both miss out coming to the Champions

Is that a loan deal for Batshuayi ? that was a big transfer 6 months ago and leaving already ?

Hasn't Gordon already said no as he has just resurrected his career so why would he want to sit on the bench ? Same with Dembele - why move when he would be replacing another young player who currently just sits on the bench.

 

[NWJocko]

Just as a warning that ISPs soon will be told that all the streams etc will have to be blocked by them - there is a lot of stuff going on in the background from Sky , Virgin Media and BT to tackle the Android and Stream box issue as it does have a knock on affect - a lot more people are illegally streaming via the Android Boxes over the last 12 months.

Aren't Sky/Virgin/BT the ISP in 90% of instances aswell?

Just interested what is out of their control I guess, don't know enough about it, maybe for another thread. I've no doubt Sky (in particular) are worried as their content has massively reduced but price hasn't over the years........

I've got an Android Box but hardly use it tbh, especially not for live sport, lots of good movies and documentaries on it though.

 

[Fish]

Is that a loan deal for Batshuayi ? that was a big transfer 6 months ago and leaving already ?

Hasn't Gordon already said no as he has just resurrected his career so why would he want to sit on the bench ? Same with Dembele - why move when he would be replacing another young player who currently just sits on the bench.

Batshuayi would go to West Ham on loan if we secured Dembele as a long term prospect to replace Costa who will almost definitely leave in the summer, then he (Batshuayi) would return for next season, if he (Dembele) doesn't come then Batshuayi stays but I'm not sure he's our No1 striker replacement!

Gordon is keen to come to Chelsea, it's Rodgers who's saying no and Craig and his agent are in discussions with Celtic, he's currently on £12k a week and fancies earning 3 times that which is on the table. I think there will be some last minute dealings with Chelsea all based on those leaving now and in the summer.

 

[sawtooth]

Batshuayi would go to West Ham on loan if we secured Dembele as a long term prospect to replace Costa who will almost definitely leave in the summer, then he (Batshuayi) would return for next season, if he (Dembele) doesn't come then Batshuayi stays but I'm not sure he's our No1 striker replacement!

Gordon is keen to come to Chelsea, it's Rodgers who's saying no and Craig and his agent are in discussions with Celtic, he's currently on £12k a week and fancies earning 3 times that which is on the table. I think there will be some last minute dealings with Chelsea all based on those leaving now and in the summer.

You seriously don't want to land Craig Gordon mate, There's a reason he's on 12K a week.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Batshuayi would go to West Ham on loan if we secured Dembele as a long term prospect to replace Costa who will almost definitely leave in the summer, then he (Batshuayi) would return for next season, if he (Dembele) doesn't come then Batshuayi stays but I'm not sure he's our No1 striker replacement!

Gordon is keen to come to Chelsea, it's Rodgers who's saying no and Craig and his agent are in discussions with Celtic, he's currently on £12k a week and fancies earning 3 times that which is on the table. I think there will be some last minute dealings with Chelsea all based on those leaving now and in the summer.

So Dembele who is learning week in week out because he is playing every week would go to a club to sit on the bench ? So you could have £80 mill worth of young talent but not playing - will be surprised if Dembele goes in Jan knowing that he won't play often because of Costa and seeing how Batshuayi has had minimal playing time - they both need to be playing. Come the summer then can see as you say Costa leaving and certainly a big search for a replacement.

Talksport had Gordon also not wanting to leave to just sit on the bench - especially when you look at how hard he has had to work to get his career back on track and is now Scotland number one again - but guess the money will talk

 

[Fish]

So Dembele who is learning week in week out because he is playing every week would go to a club to sit on the bench ? So you could have £80 mill worth of young talent but not playing - will be surprised if Dembele goes in Jan knowing that he won't play often because of Costa and seeing how Batshuayi has had minimal playing time - they both need to be playing. Come the summer then can see as you say Costa leaving and certainly a big search for a replacement.

Talksport had Gordon also not wanting to leave to just sit on the bench - especially when you look at how hard he has had to work to get his career back on track and is now Scotland number one again - but guess the money will talk

Where's the £80m on the bench come from, Batshuayi cost us £33m and will go to West Ham to play regular I'd think and Dembele who would cost us £30m to prise him away would rotate with Costa or maybe take another role that we don't know about to play with Costa for the remainder of the season, either way I think he's being earmarked as Costa's replacement and if so, then Batshuayi would return to play second fiddle or be rotated with Dembele.

I think the club (Conte) would rather move now on these players than wait until the summer, as such the bench warming would only be temporary as they'd both play much bigger parts next season and be more settled in through training and playing some games in PL now on rotation.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

You have to laugh sometimes....Jerome Sinclair having decided Liverpool weren't seeing his talents decided on a move to Watford.......now gone on loan to Birmingham. Another young one who's head is filled with hot air.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Where's the £80m on the bench come from, Batshuayi cost us £33m and will go to West Ham to play regular I'd think and Dembele who would cost us £30m to prise him away would rotate with Costa or maybe take another role that we don't know about to play with Costa for the remainder of the season, either way I think he's being earmarked as Costa's replacement and if so, then Batshuayi would return to play second fiddle or be rotated with Dembele.

Radio had Dembele costing upwards of £40mil

Why don't they rotate Batshuayi with Costa right now - would Dembele really play any more than what Batshuayi is. And Batshuayi to play second fiddle ? At £33mil that's an expensive back up player. Or will it turn into another Lukaku. I'll be amazed if Dembele leaves right now and for Chelsea - the record for young players there isn't the greatest since Abramovich arrived and the only way it makes sense is for money ( so that's it done )

I think the club (Conte) would rather move now on these players than wait until the summer, as such the bench warming would only be temporary as they'd both play much bigger parts next season and be more settled in through training and playing some games in PL now on rotation.

Would Chelsea and indeed the manager take the risk on young potential players ? Doesn't seem the blueprint for Chelsea over the last decade - more the established players , but will be interesting to see if the patience is there to allow these players to develop.

As for the "Transfer Deadline" Day on Sky - again it's proving to be an overblown damp squid from sky. They appear to be leaping onto any social media rumour and even branching out around Europe and no one of note is moving

 

[Fish]

Radio had Dembele costing upwards of £40mil

Why don't they rotate Batshuayi with Costa right now - would Dembele really play any more than what Batshuayi is. And Batshuayi to play second fiddle ? At £33mil that's an expensive back up player. Or will it turn into another Lukaku. I'll be amazed if Dembele leaves right now and for Chelsea - the record for young players there isn't the greatest since Abramovich arrived and the only way it makes sense is for money ( so that's it done )


Would Chelsea and indeed the manager take the risk on young potential players ? Doesn't seem the blueprint for Chelsea over the last decade - more the established players , but will be interesting to see if the patience is there to allow these players to develop.

Conte is different, as we've all seen, so I don't think the blueprint is that obvious, regular PL games at West Ham for Batshuayi could be excellent for him then to return more experienced, I think if we get Dembele and dependent on some forthcoming fixture results, could see more game time for those second string forwards, its all guess work but were obviously planning ahead and Conte obviously has his own strategy!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Conte is different, as we've all seen, so I don't think the blueprint is that obvious, regular PL games at West Ham for Batshuayi could be excellent for him then to return more experienced, I think if we get Dembele and dependent on some forthcoming fixture results, could see more game time for those second string forwards, its all guess work but were obviously planning ahead and Conte obviously has his own strategy!

Certainly would be a move from the previous years with the youngsters - Chelsea could have had hell of a team. Hope your owner has the same picture as Conte

The issue for this season though is Chelsea going for the title so going to be very risky not playing Costa.

Think Dembele is streets ahead in terms of potential compared to Batshuayi- get Dembele for under £40mil and that's a great signing. Think Batshuayi will go on loan at some stage but won't come back - in fairness not seen massive amount of him but when have he doesn't seem to have that something extra special ?

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Why wouldn't you persevere with the player and give him a chance? It's normally said a foriegn player needs a year to get used to the Premiership and it's teams.

 

[Fish]

Certainly would be a move from the previous years with the youngsters - Chelsea could have had hell of a team. Hope your owner has the same picture as Conte

The issue for this season though is Chelsea going for the title so going to be very risky not playing Costa.

Think Dembele is streets ahead in terms of potential compared to Batshuayi- get Dembele for under £40mil and that's a great signing. Think Batshuayi will go on loan at some stage but won't come back - in fairness not seen massive amount of him but when have he doesn't seem to have that something extra special ?

Well Dembele was in London today so I think our interest is more than just a fishing exercise and I think he is what Conte wants to replace Costa, if he comes then Batshuayi goes immediately to West Ham, as Costa them leaves for China or somewhere else in the summer Batshuayi hopefully returns with a lot of PL game time under his belt which I am sure Conte will be monitoring, we'll then know if he's what we need to bring back or sell on or extend the loan deal.

I think Conte knows what he wants and he must be in good books with Roman currently so lets strike while the iron is hot and the owner is belly up, well before 8pm anyway :smirk:

 

[Fish]

Why wouldn't you persevere with the player and give him a chance? It's normally said a foriegn player needs a year to get used to the Premiership and it's teams.

If you're on about Batshuayi then we can't take too many risks on the unknown in the position we are in currently in the table, he'll come on when we can take Costa off or play in the FA cup etc, but that's not enough to know if he's the real deal for next season so loaning him to West Ham for regular game time is good for us and the player and we can then monitor him, Conte will know a bit about him from training but it's on the pitch that counts.

 

[ger147]

You can never say never in football but I can't see Celtic selling either Gordon or Dembele tonight.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well Dembele was in London today so I think our interest is more than just a fishing exercise and I think he is what Conte wants to replace Costa, if he comes then Batshuayi goes immediately to West Ham, as Costa them leaves for China or somewhere else in the summer Batshuayi hopefully returns with a lot of PL game time under his belt which I am sure Conte will be monitoring, we'll then know if he's what we need to bring back or sell on or extend the loan deal.

I think Conte knows what he wants and he must be in good books with Roman currently so lets strike while the iron is hot and the owner is belly up, well before 8pm anyway :smirk:

Seems that he had a scan on his knee with a specialist in London and is on his way back to Glasgow after the scan - Sky have no move to Chelsea and indeed no bids or talks ?

Two bids for Gordon turned down and he isn't moving anywhere as well.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Is Dembele actually any good?
Let's not forget he's playing in the same league that's currently making Brenda look like a worldie manager 🤔

 

[Fish]

Seems that he had a scan on his knee with a specialist in London and is on his way back to Glasgow after the scan - Sky have no move to Chelsea and indeed no bids or talks ?

Two bids for Gordon turned down and he isn't moving anywhere as well.

We may have been kept in the loop regarding the scan, maybe not, I'm sure if it's a no then Conte has his eye on someone else, but if not then Batshuayi stays and it's business as usual, which hasn't done us too bad this season, it's all just been about preparation for next year I think with the summer moves that are definitely happening!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm hoping Boro get a new manager...

Who do you fancy? Pardew is available 😱