And, we're off.....2016/17

[pokerjoke]

Very impressed with Southampton over the 2 legs and especially Redmond last night in the first half he was superb and definitely an England future star.
Missed the first 2 minutes of the 2nd half and he had been put to right midfield and was pegged back by Lallana and the threat was gone but I suspect Rodriguez was injured and the manager had to change.

I also think by the sounds from the fans last night Sturridge is on borrowed time but Origi is no where near the answer.

I'm expecting a win tonight so a good open final beckons.

I believe Klopp has to take the blame as his style of play doesn't suit the English game his chase everything down and press high has really tired his players out and I said previously I think will come 6th in the league purely for this reason.

The cheque book needs to come out bigtime and he needs backing from the powers that be.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do we have to file our match reports in order......

Saints deserved it over both legs. Great defensively, and had the best chances on the break in both legs. We were lucky to go in 0-0, had some good chances in the 2nd half, but didnt go our way.

I thought Romeu was great for them, MOM.

I'm no gonna throw the baby out with the bath water, ok, its turned into a long blip, but over the last 5-6 weeks we've had Coutinho, Matip, Henderson, Mane out at times, so the spine of our team. We have 17-18 good enough players, but thats not enough to compete in 3 or even 4 comps at the top end, you need 22 minimum, and once we have 2-3 injuries our bench suffers.

The yanks need to dip deep into their pockets, and Jurgen needs to realise you cant improve everyone with coaching, and bring loads of kids in in one go. Sometimes you just have to go out and buy the finished article.

Stuey's nearer the ground, so cant believe he's late with his report........

Certainly no need for any panic -

Missing Mane clearly shows - he provides pace , width and creativity and without him it all gets too narrow and congested in the middle - the only person providing width was the young right back who again was superb but needed help. I'm surprised he hasn't given someone like Ojo a go - he certainly provides pace and width and defiantly need to look at the market - still trying to get that Pulisic from Dortmund , there is money there to spend - guess Klopp wants to make sure if is getting the right player.

Certainly no need for panic stations - it's a dip in form which expect to recover from , good to see Matip back , Coutinho back , need Mane back

And time to cut losses with Sturridge - he just doesn't offer enough and not putting away the chances when they come

Long way to go yet - you would think we were languishing in middle table getting knocked out of cups in the first round

 

[sawtooth]

Certainly no need for any panic -

Missing Mane clearly shows - he provides pace , width and creativity and without him it all gets too narrow and congested in the middle - the only person providing width was the young right back who again was superb but needed help. I'm surprised he hasn't given someone like Ojo a go - he certainly provides pace and width and defiantly need to look at the market - still trying to get that Pulisic from Dortmund , there is money there to spend - guess Klopp wants to make sure if is getting the right player.

Certainly no need for panic stations - it's a dip in form which expect to recover from , good to see Matip back , Coutinho back , need Mane back

And time to cut losses with Sturridge - he just doesn't offer enough and not putting away the chances when they come

Long way to go yet - you would think we were languishing in middle table getting knocked out of cups in the first round

As long as you are still progressing 😀

 

[ColchesterFC]

Heard on the radio yesterday that Liverpool haven't won a game this season when Mane hasn't been playing. How much longer is he away at the ACON for?

 

[Beezerk]

And time to cut losses with Sturridge - he just doesn't offer enough and not putting away the chances when they come

Could have sworn you were singing his praises in another thread not too long ago, anyway I digress.
If Liverpool had cut their losses on him last summer, when it was fairly clear he gave nothing to the team, and invested in a top notch striker, Liverpool would be sitting pretty at the top of the league and in a cup final, albeit a toy town cup 😉

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Heard on the radio yesterday that Liverpool haven't won a game this season when Mane hasn't been playing. How much longer is he away at the ACON for?

The final isn't until the 5th Feb so could be away until then if Senegal get there - hopefully they lose the QF. Don't think many expected him to be such a crucial player for us but he imo is up there with Coutinho

 

[Tashyboy]

Re Sturridge, City got rid coz he wanted a similar wage to the established stars ie Silva, Tevez etc. World class players, World Cup winners. He had just come out of the academy and scored a few goals. He was told to get lost and sold to Chelsea. Have followed his career closely and quite frankly, yeah he can be good on his day but never great and never on a regular basis. Bottom line, over rated.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Mane is in his first season and will disappear once settled, just like the Saints fans warned, Sturridge is no good anymore :rofl: he was the answer!
No one is hitting panic buttons at Anfield, just giving homest assesments which some fans can't grasp.
Weird how normally every word of Carraghers is hung upon when positive but the silence speaks volumes

 

[Tashyboy]

spot on , pep is getting found out too , one thing pressing in mickey mouse leagues in Germany and spain where there are only a few teams of standard unlike the premire league where you need to press for 90 mins and 38 plus games .....................EYG

Pep is not getting found out, his players are getting found out. Like Zabaleta, otamendi, Sagna, Bravo. To name but a few. Bravo, don't get me started.
Also some of the referees we have had have been found out. An all to repetitive theme on this blog week after week. We Have battered teams this year and come away with one point Everton ( two pens missed) Boro, Battered Chelsea, but could not find the net, battered Spuds we know what happened there That's nine points off the top of my head. That's not finding Pep out, that's him finding out about his players.

 

[Papas1982]

Very impressed with Southampton over the 2 legs and especially Redmond last night in the first half he was superb and definitely an England future star.
Missed the first 2 minutes of the 2nd half and he had been put to right midfield and was pegged back by Lallana and the threat was gone but I suspect Rodriguez was injured and the manager had to change.

I also think by the sounds from the fans last night Sturridge is on borrowed time but Origi is no where near the answer.

I'm expecting a win tonight so a good open final beckons.

I believe Klopp has to take the blame as his style of play doesn't suit the English game his chase everything down and press high has really tired his players out and I said previously I think will come 6th in the league purely for this reason.

The cheque book needs to come out bigtime and he needs backing from the powers that be.

Redmond won't get anywhere near the England team imo. He plays as part of a final 3 as he couldn't play in the middle like lallana for example. And his finishing is abysmal. For all the talk of his fantastic play. If we'd gone out it would have been down to the first leg when he missed countless chances. Don't get me wrong, he's a good outball and fine for us in the league. But I certainly wouldn't want to see him in an England shirt unless he improves massively.

 

[Papas1982]

Pep is not getting found out, his players are getting found out. Like Zabaleta, otamendi, Sagna, Bravo. To name but a few. Bravo, don't get me started.
Also some of the referees we have had have been found out. An all to repetitive theme on this blog week after week. We Have battered teams this year and come away with one point Everton ( two pens missed) Boro, Battered Chelsea, but could not find the net, battered Spuds we know what happened there That's nine points off the top of my head. That's not finding Pep out, that's him finding out about his players.

Pep biught bravo. And those same players have won the league previously. Somwhilst long term pep may be able to buy enough players to fit his style. With the stars you have, some of your performances have been shocking. All well and good blaming refs, but your defending at times has been poor, as has discipline. If pep was the messiah he's been built up to in world football, then he'd be able to accept if players couldn't play his way and find a system that works whilst he brings more players in.

 

[freddielong]

The final isn't until the 5th Feb so could be away until then if Senegal get there - hopefully they lose the QF. Don't think many expected him to be such a crucial player for us but he imo is up there with Coutinho

You need pace upfront to create space for the passers to exploit, it is what happens to Arsenal when Giroud plays upfront, defenders know the ball over the top or into the channel isn't going to happen so they can close out the space.

 

[Liverbirdie]

From this thread there must be some people who never miss a Liverpool game on the telly.

#The entertainers

 

[sawtooth]

Imagine if the Wenger out brigade got their way a couple of years ago. What would Arsenal be like now under Pep or Klopp?

Careful what you wish for because Wenger ain't all that bad really and the grass is not always greener.

 

[Papas1982]

Imagine if the Wenger out brigade got their way a couple of years ago. What would Arsenal be like now under Pep or Klopp?

Careful what you wish for because Wenger ain't all that bad really and the grass is not always greener.

At arsenal, pep would have players that suit his style.

Think hed improve you.

Klopp or simieone one would struggle as your players aren't their style.

Of of course you could of got Ranieri, and look what he did.

 

[sawtooth]

At arsenal, pep would have players that suit his style.

Think hed improve you.

Klopp or simieone one would struggle as your players aren't their style.

Of of course you could of got Ranieri, and look what he did.

Yeah Ranieri doing great but don't want to win something one year and be in a relegation battle the next though to be honest.

Wengers consistency is remarkable and we will never see the likes of that again IMO.

Plenty of people were saying that Pep will do wonders due to the players at City, it hasn't happened yet and looks to be going backwards infact.

I like the look of Claude Puel. 👍

 

[garyinderry]

I find it amazing that anyone would underestimate how much liverpool would miss Mane while he was out of the team. I heard stuart pearce say as much last night on the radio.

He is the one real dangerman who looks to drive the team forward and like many top players, rarely has a complete shocker.

Countinhio can turn a match with a pass but can also have quiet games. Mane's presense is enough to unsettle defences and bring his team mates into the game and put the opposition on the back foot.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I find it amazing that anyone would underestimate how much liverpool would miss Mane while he was out of the team. I heard stuart pearce say as much last night on the radio.

He is the one real dangerman who looks to drive the team forward and like many top players, rarely has a complete shocker.

Countinhio can turn a match with a pass but can also have quiet games. Mane's presense is enough to unsettle defences and bring his team mates into the game and put the opposition on the back foot.

Then he's only started doing this season, ask the Saints fans, some were shocked at how much they got.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

From this thread there must be some people who never miss a Liverpool game on the telly.

#The entertainers

Probably same ones that will sit in an armchair tonight and watch the match and laugh if Utd get beat :ears:

 

[Papas1982]

Yeah Ranieri doing great but don't want to win something one year and be in a relegation battle the next though to be honest.

Wengers consistency is remarkable and we will never see the likes of that again IMO.

Plenty of people were saying that Pep will do wonders due to the players at City, it hasn't happened yet and looks to be going backwards infact.

I like the look of Claude Puel. 

I and a lot of fans don't particular rate him. He reminds me of Rafa. Rotation and cup runs. But for a league need players to feel confident and he doesn't seem to give them that. That said, if we had a proper striker maybe our league form would pick up.

Ranieri was tongue hue in cheek tbh, but without starting the Arsenal cycle off AGAIN. If you're u want to have a chance of winning trophies. Risks sometimes need to be taken, Wenger may win the league again (unlikely imo). Someone new may bring new performance. Of course, they may not. And the Arsenal board spcertinly aren't likely to risk the money of top 4 for someone else.