And, we're off.....2016/17

[Fish]

I can understand both sides of the Vardy decision and I wholeheartedly admire his current decision to stay, it makes me wonder if the players, whom did seem to display a very good tight relationship amongst themselves on and off the field have got together and collectively through their agents and club all negotiated to stay and defend their title and play together in the CL with big bonuses on offer along with renewed contracts, if that's the case what a great story that would be, and more importantly, if they play as well as they did last season and defend their title and finish in the top 4/5 whilst having a good run in the CL and have a run in a domestic cup, again they'll break the mold of what we all take for granted with players moving on to "bigger" clubs when in fact a smaller club has the ability to compete and not be broken up to feed those big clubs and can change their fortunes and ambitions and enter the arena, and rightly so, it shouldn't be a closed shop that when a smaller club does well the natural thing is that players move on making the usual suspects squads stronger, smaller clubs need to show more ambition at times and I hope that this decision, if it stays like this, breaks new ground, and believe me, I have absolutely no love for Leicester whatsoever!

The owners have money so why cash in, twist and carry on, pay the players to stay and build 👍

 

[Liverbirdie]

I can understand both sides of the Vardy decision and I wholeheartedly admire his current decision to stay, it makes me wonder if the players, whom did seem to display a very good tight relationship amongst themselves on and off the field have got together and collectively through their agents and club all negotiated to stay and defend their title and play together in the CL with big bonuses on offer along with renewed contracts, if that's the case what a great story that would be, and more importantly, if they play as well as they did last season and defend their title and finish in the top 4/5 whilst having a good run in the CL and have a run in a domestic cup, again they'll break the mold of what we all take for granted with players moving on to "bigger" clubs when in fact a smaller club has the ability to compete and not be broken up to feed those big clubs and can change their fortunes and ambitions and enter the arena, and rightly so, it shouldn't be a closed shop that when a smaller club does well the natural thing is that players move on making the usual suspects squads stronger, smaller clubs need to show more ambition at times and I hope that this decision, if it stays like this, breaks new ground, and believe me, I have absolutely no love for Leicester whatsoever!

The owners have money so why cash in, twist and carry on, pay the players to stay and build 

Agree with all of this.....although I'd have used more full stops.

 

[sawtooth]

Why not? Because they've not got CL footy?
Im pretty sure that if Leicester and UTD compete for a player this summer they'll choose UTD.

RE Vardy, fair play to him if he stays. But I think he'll leave. If his intentions were to stay it's nit difficult to say that during the euros. It wouldn't add any pressure ruling out a move.

That's right because Utd don't have CL.

 

[freddielong]

Playing for a big club like Arsenal.

He obviously doesn't think he is good enough to get games at Arsenal.

 

[Slime]

Its just a pity for Utd that you cant even enter the race to sign Vardy this Summer.

United obviously don't want or need him.
Ibrahimovic or Vardy ..................................... erm, no brainer for me and how good will Rashford and Martial be in a year's time?

 

[sawtooth]

He obviously doesn't think he is good enough to get games at Arsenal.

Might be holding out to see if there are more offers after the Euro's. Maybe City, Chelsea or even Spurs now that they're a CL side might come in for him.

Like I said before it will be a good thing if he stays at Leicester in some ways, but from a player point of view he must be torn about joining a bigger club because it might be his last chance.

 

[sawtooth]

United obviously don't want or need him.
Ibrahimovic or Vardy ..................................... erm, no brainer for me and how good will Rashford and Martial be in a year's time?

Pretty sure if Fergy was around and you were in the CL he would fork out £30M for Vardy no sweat.

Utd always used to have 4 decent strikers.

 

[Hobbit]

Pretty sure if Fergy was around and you were in the CL he would fork out £30M for Vardy no sweat.

Utd always used to have 4 decent strikers.

Who would be on your shopping list? Obviously pointless saying Messi, Ronaldo and some of their respective team mates. Where do you most need cover, or enhancing?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

United obviously don't want or need him.
Ibrahimovic or Vardy ..................................... erm, no brainer for me and how good will Rashford and Martial be in a year's time?

I would say looking at last season's goals that Man Utd a goalscorer - whilst both Rashford and Martial are both very talented youngsters with potentially great futures - they don't look heavy goalscorers - playing alongside someone like Ibra would be perfect for the pair and even Vardy or Benzema or Higuain etc

But UTD need for a regular goalscorer is the same as Arsenals

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Might be holding out to see if there are more offers after the Euro's. Maybe City, Chelsea or even Spurs now that they're a CL side might come in for him.

Like I said before it will be a good thing if he stays at Leicester in some ways, but from a player point of view he must be torn about joining a bigger club because it might be his last chance.

Would you rather play for a bigger club that doesn't win titles or a smaller club that does win titles ?

Sorry Sean you keep saying "playing for a bigger club" as if it's the pinnacle alone for a player - clubs like AC Milan and Inter Milan are bigger clubs , Ajax etc etc but they struggle to attract the top players despite being a bigger club - players want more than just playing for a bigger club - surely they also want to actually compete for titles and trophies as opposed to "just playing for the bigger club".

We have struggled to attract the better players because of that exact reason.

Leicester aren't a "bigger club" but that's irrelevant when they actually go and win the title - there is more to football that just playing for a bigger club - playing for Arsenal for a non Arsenal fan ( as Vardy is ) isn't the be all and end all for a player - it isn't the pinnacle. If Arsenal and indeed Spurs and Liverpool were actually winning titles then you can say that players would be attracted to them but they aren't.

 

[freddielong]

Would you rather play for a bigger club that doesn't win titles or a smaller club that does win titles ?

Sorry Sean you keep saying "playing for a bigger club" as if it's the pinnacle alone for a player - clubs like AC Milan and Inter Milan are bigger clubs , Ajax etc etc but they struggle to attract the top players despite being a bigger club - players want more than just playing for a bigger club - surely they also want to actually compete for titles and trophies as opposed to "just playing for the bigger club".

We have struggled to attract the better players because of that exact reason.

Leicester aren't a "bigger club" but that's irrelevant when they actually go and win the title - there is more to football that just playing for a bigger club - playing for Arsenal for a non Arsenal fan ( as Vardy is ) isn't the be all and end all for a player - it isn't the pinnacle. If Arsenal and indeed Spurs and Liverpool were actually winning titles then you can say that players would be attracted to them but they aren't.

Serious question, do you know before you start typing that your post is going to be utter trolling dros or does the magic just flow when you start typing?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Serious question, do you know before you start typing that your post is going to be utter trolling dros or does the magic just flow when you start typing?

How about for a change instead of just accusing people of "trolling" because they are negative towards Arsenal that you address the points or does the accusation of trolling arrive because it then helps you gloss over the points ?

Why don't you add something to the thread instead of just throwing trolling accusations around ?

What exactly in my post is so bad that you believe is trolling ?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Serious question, do you know before you start typing that your post is going to be utter trolling dros or does the magic just flow when you start typing?

I think you could be the one that is trolling in this case as, for once, I have to agree 100% with Phil.

Players are professionals and will, therefore, join or play for whichever club is best for their career (earnings power) both now and in the future.

Therefore, what is the attraction to Vardy in joining Arsenal. Leicester can and will afford the same level of earnings and he will be getting CL exposure next season. That may further enhance his reputation, more perhaps than playing for a club that consistently underachieves relative to expectations.

All these references to "big clubs" are irrelevant. After all most would suggest that Newcastle and Villa are "big clubs", certainly bigger than Leicester, but surely would not suggest that Vardy should join either of them if they came knocking.

 

[pbrown7582]

I would say looking at last season's goals that Man Utd a goalscorer - whilst both Rashford and Martial are both very talented youngsters with potentially great futures - they don't look heavy goalscorers - playing alongside someone like Ibra would be perfect for the pair and even Vardy or Benzema or Higuain etc

But UTD need for a regular goalscorer is the same as Arsenals

Vardy doesn't fit the way JM plays or last season under LVG's philosophy, that said don't think he fits into the Arsenal style either.

 

[Hobbit]

Serious question, do you know before you start typing that your post is going to be utter trolling dros or does the magic just flow when you start typing?

How about for a change instead of just accusing people of "trolling" because they are negative towards Arsenal that you address the points or does the accusation of trolling arrive because it then helps you gloss over the points ?

Why don't you add something to the thread instead of just throwing trolling accusations around ?

What exactly in my post is so bad that you believe is trolling ?

I think you could be the one that is trolling in this case as, for once, I have to agree 100% with Phil.

Players are professionals and will, therefore, join or play for whichever club is best for their career (earnings power) both now and in the future.

Therefore, what is the attraction to Vardy in joining Arsenal. Leicester can and will afford the same level of earnings and he will be getting CL exposure next season. That may further enhance his reputation, more perhaps than playing for a club that consistently underachieves relative to expectations.

All these references to "big clubs" are irrelevant. After all most would suggest that Newcastle and Villa are "big clubs", certainly bigger than Leicester, but surely would not suggest that Vardy should join either of them if they came knocking.

Sums it for me Freddie. There's only one person Trolling, and it isn't Phil.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Solent Radio is reporting Wanyama is in the process of signing for Tottenham. What are the thoughts of Saints fan on him? Looks a decent player.

 

[freddielong]

Would you rather play for a bigger club that doesn't win titles or a smaller club that does win titles ?

Sorry Sean you keep saying "playing for a bigger club" as if it's the pinnacle alone for a player - clubs like AC Milan and Inter Milan are bigger clubs , Ajax etc etc but they struggle to attract the top players despite being a bigger club - players want more than just playing for a bigger club - surely they also want to actually compete for titles and trophies as opposed to "just playing for the bigger club".

We have struggled to attract the better players because of that exact reason.

Leicester aren't a "bigger club" but that's irrelevant when they actually go and win the title - there is more to football that just playing for a bigger club - playing for Arsenal for a non Arsenal fan ( as Vardy is ) isn't the be all and end all for a player - it isn't the pinnacle. If Arsenal and indeed Spurs and Liverpool were actually winning titles then you can say that players would be attracted to them but they aren't.

Ok ignoring the obvious and just looking at this from a purely financial point of view Vardy turning down Arsenal makes no sense

Vardy’s new offer from Leicester is (if you believe the rags) £100,000 per week (again if you believe the rags) Arsenal supposedly offered him £120,000 per week, the Arsenal offer will have also had some sort of signing fee (usually around 10% of the transfer fee).

Ok you say in your post that Leicester City are a small club that wins titles, you are wrong they are a small club that has won one top flight title in 100+ years, they have been relegated 11 times in that time so it would be easy to argue that they are ten times more likely to get relegated next season than win the title again, this is especially true when you factor in the extra games they will have to play in the champion’s league.

Jamie Vardy is 29 now if he has a poor season next season or gets injured he will be a 30 year old in a small club with a good chance of relegation, I am also making the assumption that the offer from Leicester will have a relegation clause in it which usually halves the offered wage. If Vardy had signed the Arsenal contract he could have guaranteed his earnings for the next 3 years possibly 4, I do not think he can do that at Leicester.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Its just a pity for Utd that you cant even enter the race to sign Vardy this Summer.

I don't know where you got your info but there is absolutely nothing to stop United joining the race to sign Vardy this summer. In fact if Leicester decide to sell him then they might very well welcome United getting involved. With Arsenal playing in the CL they can trigger the release clause in Vardy's contract (20 million?) which is solely for clubs playing in the CL. If United decided they wanted him they would have to offer more money but there isn't anything to stop them bidding. Who do you think Leicester would sell to if Arsenal offered 20 million and 1 pounds and United offered 40 million?

 

[G.U.R]

Solent Radio is reporting Wanyama is in the process of signing for Tottenham. What are the thoughts of Saints fan on him? Looks a decent player.

The Saints fans I work with are still pee'd off with Koeman going, this news wll not improve their moods. Tottenham wanted him last summer and failed with several bids. Why they want him when they have Dier and Dembele I'm not sure as I don't see him as being any better then either of them.

 

[pbrown7582]

Ok ignoring the obvious and just looking at this from a purely financial point of view Vardy turning down Arsenal makes no sense

Vardy’s new offer from Leicester is (if you believe the rags) £100,000 per week (again if you believe the rags) Arsenal supposedly offered him £120,000 per week, the Arsenal offer will have also had some sort of signing fee (usually around 10% of the transfer fee).

Ok you say in your post that Leicester City are a small club that wins titles, you are wrong they are a small club that has won one top flight title in 100+ years, they have been relegated 11 times in that time so it would be easy to argue that they are ten times more likely to get relegated next season than win the title again, this is especially true when you factor in the extra games they will have to play in the champion’s league.

Jamie Vardy is 29 now if he has a poor season next season or gets injured he will be a 30 year old in a small club with a good chance of relegation, I am also making the assumption that the offer from Leicester will have a relegation clause in it which usually halves the offered wage. If Vardy had signed the Arsenal contract he could have guaranteed his earnings for the next 3 years possibly 4, I do not think he can do that at Leicester.

all assuming the rags have top notch info and Leicester haven't matched the deal arsenal put forward? or maybe even his agent has used arsenal to get him a pay rise at Leicester?