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Every club has them I'm afraid. Arsenal for sure and even a few on here.

Treatment of Wenger this year in particular has been disgusting and shameful by some but they were probably out last night having a good time in his name.

Your right all teams have them,some Spurs fans were to quick to turn on the team in the past.

Chelseas maybe a extreme case after booing Hazard, Costa etc and helping to get the manager sacked then lauding them as heroes this season.
 

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Every club has them I'm afraid. Arsenal for sure and even a few on here.

Treatment of Wenger this year in particular has been disgusting and shameful by some but they were probably out last night having a good time in his name.

id love you to show the posts where arsenal fans have been "shameful and disgusting" towards Wenger on here. Plenty of us have questioned his future yes (and still do)
 

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id love you to show the posts where arsenal fans have been "shameful and disgusting" towards Wenger on here. Plenty of us have questioned his future yes (and still do)

I was speaking generally about the shameful behaviour, flying banners, Arsenal Fan TV, Wenger Out posters, radio phone ins, etc.

I've read one or two things on here that have crossed the line a bit, continuous sniping and bitching as well which in itself is a mark of disrespect to a man that has served the club so superbly over the last 20 years. And "questioning future" is one way to put it lol.
 

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I would like him to finish on a high. Absolutely respect what he has done for the club, this has been the poorest season for many years regardless of yesterdays win. Certain no shameful comments from Arsenal fans on here. Thanks for the memories Arsene but change is needed. Yesterdays performance just papers over the cracks in a terrible season. I think apart from the two wins against Chelsea and the semi final win against City we have played poorly and snatched wins and draws without playing well. Had a good run towards end of the season but it was too late and that was only beating teams with nothing to play for including Man U who were focusing on the Europa League.
Go with grace and dignity now and get Eddie Howe in. I like him a lot. Intelligent young manager with class ideal for Arsenal. Has no less experience than Wenger did when he first came to Arsenal!
 
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I was speaking generally about the shameful behaviour, flying banners, Arsenal Fan TV, Wenger Out posters, radio phone ins, etc.

I've read one or two things on here that have crossed the line a bit, continuous sniping and bitching as well which in itself is a mark of disrespect to a man that has served the club so superbly over the last 20 years. And "questioning future" is one way to put it lol.

Respect works both ways doesn't it. You're very disrespectful of Chelsea's achievements.

I agree some of the wenger out banners and calling for the managers head inside the stadium is wrong.

It's about time you showed respect to those lads who go on Arsenal fan TV as they put the Hard yards in following that team home and away. I think it's a good platform for fans imo. They have the club in their heart and they only want the best for the club, they're also entitled to their opinion.
 

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I would like him to finish on a high. Absolutely respect what he has done for the club, this has been the poorest season for many years regardless of yesterdays win. Certain no shameful comments from Arsenal fans on here. Thanks for the memories Arsene but change is needed. Yesterdays performance just papers over the cracks in a terrible season. I think apart from the two wins against Chelsea and the semi final win against City we have played poorly and snatched wins and draws without playing well. Had a good run towards end of the season but it was too late and that was only beating teams with nothing to play for including Man U who were focusing on the Europa League.
Go with grace and dignity now and get Eddie Howe in. I like him a lot. Intelligent young manager with class ideal for Arsenal. Has no less experience than Wenger did when he first came to Arsenal!

well said Pat upto the Eddie Howe part, jury still out there for me
 

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Respect works both ways doesn't it. You're very disrespectful of Chelsea's achievements.

I agree some of the wenger out banners and calling for the managers head inside the stadium is wrong.

It's about time you showed respect to those lads who go on Arsenal fan TV as they put the Hard yards in following that team home and away. I think it's a good platform for fans imo. They have the club in their heart and they only want the best for the club, they're also entitled to their opinion.

Read back through posts Stu 99.9% of my Chelsea posts come as a result of inflammatory comments and remarks about Arsenal.

Same with Liverpool.

Some supporters on here of those clubs have a few too many things to say about Arsenal that are only designed to flare so I give some back.

Yeah and ISIS supporters over here are entitled to their opinions as well but that doesn't make what they say right or decent does it?

And those who are privileged to go to games week in week out does not give them the right to be disrespectful.
 
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Read back through posts Stu 99.9% of my Chelsea posts come as a result of inflammatory comments and remarks about Arsenal.

Same with Liverpool.

Some supporters on here of those clubs have a few too many things to say about Arsenal that are only designed to flare so I give some back.

Yeah and ISIS supporters over here are entitled to their opinions as well but that doesn't make what they say right or decent does it?

And those who are privileged to go to games week in week out does not give them the right to be disrespectful.

A pretty childish response, I had you down as better.

Unless you mean it, why post it?
 
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Read back through posts Stu 99.9% of my Chelsea posts come as a result of inflammatory comments and remarks about Arsenal.

Same with Liverpool.

Some supporters on here of those clubs have a few too many things to say about Arsenal that are only designed to flare so I give some back.

Yeah and ISIS supporters over here are entitled to their opinions as well but that doesn't make what they say right or decent does it?

And those who are privileged to go to games week in week out does not give them the right to be disrespectful.
Chelsea and Liverpool supporters being compared to ISIS supporters, WOW, you've certainly lost the plot on that one.

Disgraceful comparison which ever way you try to explain it.
 

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well said Pat upto the Eddie Howe part, jury still out there for me

Who do want to see in the hot seat big man?

I would have liked Klopp before he went to Liverpool.

Allegri at Juventus has been mentioned.
Marc Overmars/Bergkamp also mentioned.
Thierry Henry ??

Big Sam needs a club.:whoo:
 

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Who do want to see in the hot seat big man?

I would have liked Klopp before he went to Liverpool.

Allegri at Juventus has been mentioned.
Marc Overmars/Bergkamp also mentioned.
Thierry Henry ??

Big Sam needs a club.:whoo:

honest answer is i really dont have a clue, struggling to think of someone over here I would want but thats been the problem for ages hasnt it. Tuchel or Allegri maybe?
 
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Spurs have played great football and absolutely deserved 2nd place, imo, Utd have had a far better season, they may not have played the best football but they have a new manager who in his first season has got them 2 trophies and CL football next season, what's not to be happy about that.

yes they can be happy.. but we have it rammed down our throats that the league cup and Europa cup are 2nd rate comps that no one wants to play in let alone win.. sorry good season for most, but for UTD to be so far off challenging for the the top 4 let alone the league ... ...
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yes they can be happy.. but we have it rammed down our throats that the league cup and Europa cup are 2nd rate comps that no one wants to play in let alone win.. sorry good season for most, but for UTD to be so far off challenging for the the top 4 let alone the league ... ...
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Europa League is second rate, everyone could see UTD winning it a while ago as they were easily the strongest team left in it. CL is the one you want to be in and I hope to God that Wenger plays kids in it this year. I have a funny feeling that he wont treat it with much seriousness much like the domestic league cup.
 

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Europa League is second rate, everyone could see UTD winning it a while ago as they were easily the strongest team left in it. CL is the one you want to be in and I hope to God that Wenger plays kids in it this year. I have a funny feeling that he wont treat it with much seriousness much like the domestic league cup.

But, like Utd this year, winning the Europa League could be your only way back into the champions League, so perhaps wanting Wenger to play the kids could be you cutting your nose to spite your face.
 

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But, like Utd this year, winning the Europa League could be your only way back into the champions League, so perhaps wanting Wenger to play the kids could be you cutting your nose to spite your face.

True but I doubt United would have given it the respect it did had their top 4 status been nailed on a while ago. Fact is that they had no choice really as soon as it became apparent that missing top 4 was a real possibility.

If Arsenal start well in the league and it comes down to prioritising League or EL then I am pretty confident that Wenger will play a second team in EL and do the opposite of Mourinho.

Infact it really would not surprise me that he plays kids from the outset.
 

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True but I doubt United would have given it the respect it did had their top 4 status been nailed on a while ago. Fact is that they had no choice really as soon as it became apparent that missing top 4 was a real possibility.

If Arsenal start well in the league and it comes down to prioritising League or EL then I am pretty confident that Wenger will play a second team in EL and do the opposite of Mourinho.

Infact it really would not surprise me that he plays kids from the outset.

So you really believe if you get to a European semi final and top four is in doubt he'd risk it for a league position?

if he did, then He's foolish. I believe your reserves will likely get you through the groups anyway. But if Wenger stays I think he will know there is a large enough portion of fans who at least have concerns so won't want too many bad results.
 
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