And, we're off.....2016/17

[Deleted member 1740]

what I said was he should have one reserve team player to play in defence with some pace instead of Lucas.
He totally exposed the Young players in the cup to many changes he surrendered a place in the cup final.
One or two tops is not going to upset the team.
Klopps way of playing is good with a full team but has no plan B for when we are down with injuries.
We have lost to many games we should have won.
His post Mach comments are bizarre " pitch to dry " really.

This is exactly what you said

It's the same players making the same mistakes all season but apart from Lucas they are first team regulars.
Klopp put all his eggs in one basket last year in the Europa final when this went tits up we could not attract top players I.e. No CL .
The way we are going now I can see the same thing happening again.
Klopp is the Manager if the players don't do as he says for set pieces play some of the reserves who WILL.
Thats why I think he is responsible after all he is the Manager buck stops at the top.

Looking back at the injuries and how the squad was in January I thought playing the kids was the right thing to do. It was the 4th round not the demo's so he's hardly surrendered a place in the cup final.

Let's be brutally honest here, that squad is not strong enough to cope with a season. Injuries happen to every side and whilst the other teams can still put a decent side together we can't and that's not the fault of Klopp.

He's given the young lads a go and you've criticized him. I really don't know what you expect from him and that team?

No wonder we get called delusional.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

This is exactly what you said



Looking back at the injuries and how the squad was in January I thought playing the kids was the right thing to do. It was the 4th round not the demo's so he's hardly surrendered a place in the cup final.

Let's be brutally honest here, that squad is not strong enough to cope with a season. Injuries happen to every side and whilst the other teams can still put a decent side together we can't and that's not the fault of Klopp.

He's given the young lads a go and you've criticized him. I really don't know what you expect from him and that team?

No wonder we get called delusional.

Who calls you delusional mate, way out of order that :rofl:

 

[clubchamp98]

This is exactly what you said



Looking back at the injuries and how the squad was in January I thought playing the kids was the right thing to do. It was the 4th round not the demo's so he's hardly surrendered a place in the cup final.

Let's be brutally honest here, that squad is not strong enough to cope with a season. Injuries happen to every side and whilst the other teams can still put a decent side together we can't and that's not the fault of Klopp.

He's given the young lads a go and you've criticized him. I really don't know what you expect from him and that team?

No wonder we get called delusional.

You are entitled to YOUR opinion mine is different .
As I have said I don't like him or his methods .
We should be able to see a game out (Palace ) when we go one up.
Southampton game Sturridge is warming the bench for 70 mins it was so poor.
Can and Loukas at home Llalana on bench for 70 mins ?
The one man ( Sturidge)who can beat someone and score when they sit with two banks of four is on the bench.
If he is on the bench he should be fit to play.
I just don't rate him what can I say!!!?
If you can't get past the fourth round you will not win the cup.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You are entitled to YOUR opinion mine is different .
As I have said I don't like him or his methods .
We should be able to see a game out (Palace ) when we go one up.
Southampton game Sturridge is warming the bench for 70 mins it was so poor.
Can and Loukas at home Llalana on bench for 70 mins ?
The one man ( Sturidge)who can beat someone and score when they sit with two banks of four is on the bench.
If he is on the bench he should be fit to play.
I just don't rate him what can I say!!!?
If you can't get past the fourth round you will not win the cup.

I don't have a problem with your opinion, I'm just trying to understand what you expected from him and that squad?

You've obviously seen enough to write him off after 18months with a very average squad.

I agree the defending has been woeful at times but it's mainly down to individual errors, like the 2 against palace from Lovren,as opposed to coaching.

Who would have instead of him?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I don't have a problem with your opinion, I'm just trying to understand what you expected from him and that squad?

You've obviously seen enough to write him off after 18months with a very average squad.

I agree the defending has been woeful at times but it's mainly down to individual errors, like the 2 against palace from Lovren,as opposed to coaching.

Who would have instead of him?

What do you put down to struggling against the lesser teams down to?
That's not the squad.
Poor tactics?

 

[Tashyboy]

Well that's made it very interesting in Madrid, very interesting

 

[Pin-seeker]

Well that's made it very interesting in Madrid, very interesting

Hasn't it just.
Still fancy Real tho.

 

[Tashyboy]

Hasn't it just.
Still fancy Real tho.

Watched Juve last night and they looked really well balanced between having to defend and attack. They were saying that Real Madrid will turn them over In The final. Two things spring to mind.
1, will they even get there.
2, if they play like they are doing at the moment, they won't turn Juve over.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Watched Juve last night and they looked really well balanced between having to defend and attack. They were saying that Real Madrid will turn them over In The final. Two things spring to mind.
1, will they even get there.
2, if they play like they are doing at the moment, they won't turn Juve over.

I backed Chelsea to win Prem,Real to win CL double.
IF they get to the final I think I'll be having a few quid on Juve.

 

[pendodave]

Loving the ref booking the wavers of imaginary cards after every tackle. Wish they'd do it here.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

That RM goal so vital and I can't see Atletico getting three in the second half. Nor can I see it finishing with the full compliment of players

 

[Fish]

60 minutes and 1 shot on target and 1 goal, what will Arsenal do without Sanchez next season 🤔😜

 

[USER1999]

60 minutes and 1 shot on target and 1 goal, what will Arsenal do without Sanchez next season 🤔😜

Dont care. He isnt the main issue. Frankly, i dont care who goes or who stays, its same old anyway. I still think that the srse have some fantastic players. Wenger aside, i think the main issue is the lack of a transfer policy. I think there is a shot gun approach of just buying players who are available, and retaining players, without a structure as to how they will fit into a way of playing. Arsenal could happily field a team of 11 centre midfielders, at least 9 of whom would be out of position. It would not stop them from buying another cm in the summer.

 

[clubchamp98]

I don't have a problem with your opinion, I'm just trying to understand what you expected from him and that squad?

You've obviously seen enough to write him off after 18months with a very average squad.

I agree the defending has been woeful at times but it's mainly down to individual errors, like the 2 against palace from Lovren,as opposed to coaching.

Who would have instead of him?

Klop was getting all the praise when we were winning.
The real test of the manager is when you DO have a depleted squad.
The playing of Lucas as a holding player at home when the opposition don't even come out of their own half and hit on the break with pace.
Thats why I said play one of the reserves with some pace to cover Lovren and Matip who are slow by prem standards.
The set piece defending is whoeful but it's not just defenders we put all 11 men in the box.
We are so narrow going forward it's easy to defend against , but Klopp just wants to argue with the fourth official most of the time.
Not just last game this has been going on for weeks.
I think our opinion of Klopp is so far apart we won't see eye to eye I just don't think he is the answer.

 

[fundy]

Dont care. He isnt the main issue. Frankly, i dont care who goes or who stays, its same old anyway. I still think that the srse have some fantastic players. Wenger aside, i think the main issue is the lack of a transfer policy. I think there is a shot gun approach of just buying players who are available, and retaining players, without a structure as to how they will fit into a way of playing. Arsenal could happily field a team of 11 centre midfielders, at least 9 of whom would be out of position. It would not stop them from buying another cm in the summer.

shame weve not fielded one worth having for most of this season!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

United one up on the night. Not looking 100% in control but at least it forces Celta to score twice.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Game on

 

[Junior]

17000 tickets for the Europa final already pre sold via ballot to 'neutral' fans via the UEFA website......10000 to sponsors and 8000 each to Man U and Ajax. Looks like the touts are going to make a wedge. Well done UEFA.

 

[Liverbirdie]

17000 tickets for the Europa final already pre sold via ballot to 'neutral' fans via the UEFA website......10000 to sponsors and 8000 each to Man U and Ajax. Looks like the touts are going to make a wedge. Well done UEFA.

Shocking isn't it mate, and its the same every year.

Why is it in a sub-50,00 stadium also? There are enough 60,000 plus stadiums in Europe to be able to hold the Europa.

The CL should always in a 65k plus stadium, and the Europa in the same. The clubs need to get together and sort out this "UEFA family" and get it down to 10% to UEFA and their hangers on.

I was lucky in our ballot for Switzerland last year.

 

[Junior]

Shocking isn't it mate, and its the same every year.

Why is it in a sub-50,00 stadium also? There are enough 60,000 plus stadiums in Europe to be able to hold the Europa.

The CL should always in a 65k plus stadium, and the Europa in the same. The clubs need to get together and sort out this "UEFA family" and get it down to 10% to UEFA and their hangers on.

I was lucky in our ballot for Switzerland last year.

Season tickets only in the ballot too. Members without season tickets are not allowed to apply. Which i guess is fair given the money they spend. I know people (members not season ticket holders) who have been to every euro match this year but will still travel in the hope of getting a ticket from a tout. Travelling around Europe following Man U is like what golf is to us.....it's their main hobby. They make a short break of it spending a few days in a European city etc.

I get the need to keep sponsors sweet but why pre sell more than twice as many tickets than your giving to both fans combined? All your going to get is thousands and thousands of fans travelling without tickets and the touts making a wedge.