And, we're off.....2016/17

[Slime]

Spawny old Arsenal, what a fluke of a goal ....................... and that's how United shut the door.
Only have 35mins left to open it again!!

 

[Slime]

Ooops. I think they've locked it now.

 

[clubchamp98]

Utter dross from Reds.
Klopp watched it for 70 mins before changing anything .
he should watch the match instead of arguing with the fourth official.

looks like Arsenal will do us a favour 2.0

 

[Slime]

Anyone got a price for a Rooney red card?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Utter dross from Reds.
Klopp watched it for 70 mins before changing anything .
he should watch the match instead of arguing with the fourth official.

looks like Arsenal will do us a favour 2.0

Apparently the pitch was a bit dry aswell 😳

 

[clubchamp98]

Apparently the pitch was a bit dry aswell 

I am not his biggest fan .
The fourth official intervened to give a foul but would not tell ref it was a corner.
Ref was pants.
no excuses Liverpool were very poor but Klopp watched it like me for 70 mins.
the crowd were chanting for a sub, someone to take people on.
Sturrige was more effective but not on for long enough.

midfield is poor sideways passes ,no flair, no width.

I know now prem is big buisness but if I had traveled 300 miles to watch saints play like that. It's supposed to be entertainment.
but table position equals more money and their tactics were spot on if not predictable.

we just can't get round a bus.

 

[Papas1982]

I am not his biggest fan .
The fourth official intervened to give a foul but would not tell ref it was a corner.
Ref was pants.
no excuses Liverpool were very poor but Klopp watched it like me for 70 mins.
the crowd were chanting for a sub, someone to take people on.
Sturrige was more effective but not on for long enough.

midfield is poor sideways passes ,no flair, no width.

I know now prem is big buisness but if I had traveled 300 miles to watch saints play like that. It's supposed to be entertainment.
but table position equals more money and their tactics were spot on if not predictable.

we just can't get round a bus.

As a saints fan, i can tell you. Compared to the football we played in the 90's. I'd settle for performances like that away from home all day long.
We went with our best option for points (not prize money) and it worked.
You had one proper chance, the rest were speculative at best, and in the last 20mins, with more composure our counters could have caused more problems.

It seems to me that a lot of the crowd were wanting subs, how long til fans turn on him (klopp)?

 

[Tashyboy]

I am not his biggest fan .
The fourth official intervened to give a foul but would not tell ref it was a corner.
Ref was pants.
no excuses Liverpool were very poor but Klopp watched it like me for 70 mins.
the crowd were chanting for a sub, someone to take people on.
Sturrige was more effective but not on for long enough.

midfield is poor sideways passes ,no flair, no width.

I know now prem is big buisness but if I had traveled 300 miles to watch saints play like that. It's supposed to be entertainment.
but table position equals more money and their tactics were spot on if not predictable.

we just can't get round a bus.

The Reds played like that against City last week and it was described as a defensive masterclass. Bore fest more like. Felt sorry for the Reds fans travelling back to London watching that rubbish.

 

[Papas1982]

The Reds played like that against City last week and it was described as a defensive masterclass. Bore fest more like. Felt sorry for the Reds fans travelling back to London watching that rubbish.

Come on Tash, when city were in their more usual postion of the last 20 years are you saying you prefered it when your team rolled over and had their tummy tickled so the big boys has an easy game?

Or did you love it when they put graft in and stole a 1-0 or even held on for a tough away point?

It's all well and good fans of big clubs criticising styles of football, but the majority of clubs in the league (7th down) want security first and foremost.

 

[Tashyboy]

Come on Tash, when city were in their more usual postion of the last 20 years are you saying you prefered it when your team rolled over and had their tummy tickled so the big boys has an easy game?

Or did you love it when they put graft in and stole a 1-0 or even held on for a tough away point?

It's all well and good fans of big clubs criticising styles of football, but the majority of clubs in the league (7th down) want security first and foremost.

No don't get me wrong, when teams played against Mourinhos teams and not just Utd. When they park the bus, Maureen goes OTT with his moaning of said tactics. But when his teams do it both here and in Europe, it is a tactical masterclass. Can thoroughly understand lesser team doing it. But Utd doing it against teams there equal. I don't get that.
When we were Rammel in the late 70-s to 00,s Utd played free flowing attacking footbal that, was entertaining, won games and won trophies. It must be hard for a Utd fan to have watched the last few seasons post fergie.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Instead of moaning about opposition teams tactics,maybe managers should do what they get paid an obscene amount
Of money to do & change to plan B or C.

 

[clubchamp98]

As a saints fan, i can tell you. Compared to the football we played in the 90's. I'd settle for performances like that away from home all day long.
We went with our best option for points (not prize money) and it worked.
You had one proper chance, the rest were speculative at best, and in the last 20mins, with more composure our counters could have caused more problems.

It seems to me that a lot of the crowd were wanting subs, how long til fans turn on him (klopp)?

Entertainment? .?? Must have been dire in the ninties..
But in the prem points make prizes.(Money)""
dont remember Minolet making a save (except outside the box.) very lucky boy,
Klopp is king in Bundesleigh but in the Prem ????
Lucky Arsenal beat United so result is not to damaging.

 

[clubchamp98]

Instead of moaning about opposition teams tactics,maybe managers should do what they get paid an obscene amount
Of money to do & change to plan B or C.

Whats B & C

 

[Papas1982]

Entertainment? .?? Must have been dire in the ninties..
But in the prem points make prizes.(Money)""
dont remember Minolet making a save (except outside the box.) very lucky boy,
Klopp is king in Bundesleigh but in the Prem ????
Lucky Arsenal beat United so result is not to damaging.

Well yes, saints were fighting relegation for the first 25 years of my life lol.

But there are only a hnadful of teams who regularly play entertaining football. Teams would still play the same money, irrespective of the money. I always wanted saints to be in the top flight so i could see the best players, long before sky got involved.

At the end of the day it is tactics, we don't play like it all season.

It's all well and good wanting better when you're a top 6 club regularly, but there are times when ALL teams would be better off shutting up shop but do't and end up missing out on points as they don't have that tactic in their locker.

Serious question, would you rather be entertained all the time and finish top four every few years. Or be more pragmatic and come close to wining the league?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Whats B & C

I don't know,I'm not a manager 😁

 

[davemc1]

Can I just clear this up, Hull are not a North East team. Two NE teams are likely to go down but whoever else joins them it won't make it three.

In answer to a previous question, Boro are a well run club and so I would be surprised if they had to lay a lot of people off. Sunderland have been a PL club for a few years now and so probably spend accordingly. I know they have a lot of debt so redundancies there will be more likely. Saying that the debt will be entirely player driven. The club is not flash and so should not have too many excess staff. It may be both teams need fewer match day staff but they will be temporary staff anyway.

I'm easily confused so forgive me but..

Both Liverpool and Manchester are NorthWest power houses, Hull is on the NorthEast coast and North of both them two cities???

 

[SaintHacker]

Instead of moaning about opposition teams tactics,maybe managers should do what they get paid an obscene amount
Of money to do & change to plan B or C.

100% correct

 

[davemc1]

Well yes, saints were fighting relegation for the first 25 years of my life lol.

But there are only a hnadful of teams who regularly play entertaining football. Teams would still play the same money, irrespective of the money. I always wanted saints to be in the top flight so i could see the best players, long before sky got involved.

At the end of the day it is tactics, we don't play like it all season.

It's all well and good wanting better when you're a top 6 club regularly, but there are times when ALL teams would be better off shutting up shop but do't and end up missing out on points as they don't have that tactic in their locker.

Serious question, would you rather be entertained all the time and finish top four every few years. Or be more pragmatic and come close to wining the league?

I know the question is not aimed at me but, have we not done both of what you've asked in very recent years?

but then if we'd been more pragmatic your question changes...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm easily confused so forgive me but..

Both Liverpool and Manchester are NorthWest power houses, Hull is on the NorthEast coast and North of both them two cities???

East coast, not north east coast. North East starts when you cross from north Yorkshire into Teesside. Do you class Yorkshire as NE? Nope. Hull is below Leeds and York, which are both in the North.

Clear now?😵

 

[davemc1]

told you, I'm easily confused.

are Liverpool and Manchester not in the north?