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:D :D. Have Chelsea won the league because of yernited's,Arsenals, City's failures then??

No they've won it because they've been the best team over the 38 games and have rightfully won it.

The league table doesn't lie, teams finish where they do on merit. It's very disrespectful to suggest it's all luck or because of other teams failures.

We may still finish 5th or 6th but right now we are where we are because we've won games. Yes it could've and probably should've been better but that's football.

Yernited added arguably 4 world class players to an already quality squad but it hasn't worked out for them.

They've produced another season like they did in the previous 3 seasons, 5th could be par for them.

I can't see major changes at Arsenal if Wenger stays, can you?

I agree with your point about our squad and that really does need to be addressed.

I think Chelsea have won because Spurs are slow starters.. they should have been out of sight but drew too many early games

best team to watch in the league by a mile

and im a bloody hammer so its not a biased view
 

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Very surprised by the Sunderland result, once again an already relegated team is having its say on who is being dragged down with them.

I think I'm right in thinking that had Hull won today that would have as good as sent Boro down before kicking another ball as they'd then have to win all their next 3 matches with Hull not picking up another point! Ain't gonna happen!

And now with Swansea wining against Everton I think it's 3 North East clubs for the drop and 1 coming back 

if it does come to 3 teams from the North East dropping what will it do to their economy? its not just a few players who get sold whole cost cutting measures are normally introduced.. people laid off.. less people already coming to the area due to the decrease in crowds
 

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I think Chelsea have won because Spurs are slow starters.. they should have been out of sight but drew too many early games

best team to watch in the league by a mile

and im a bloody hammer so its not a biased view

Chelsea will win it as they are the better team.Best to watch doesn't mean a thing, arsenal had that title for years.

Btw, spurs were 2 points behind chelsea after 10.
 

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Can I just clear this up, Hull are not a North East team. Two NE teams are likely to go down but whoever else joins them it won't make it three.

In answer to a previous question, Boro are a well run club and so I would be surprised if they had to lay a lot of people off. Sunderland have been a PL club for a few years now and so probably spend accordingly. I know they have a lot of debt so redundancies there will be more likely. Saying that the debt will be entirely player driven. The club is not flash and so should not have too many excess staff. It may be both teams need fewer match day staff but they will be temporary staff anyway.
 
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if it does come to 3 teams from the North East dropping what will it do to their economy? its not just a few players who get sold whole cost cutting measures are normally introduced.. people laid off.. less people already coming to the area due to the decrease in crowds
It'll have very little effect, Hull are not NE for one and fans will still go the games.
 
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Can I just clear this up, Hull are not a North East team. Two NE teams are likely to go down but whoever else joins them it won't make it three.

In answer to a previous question, Boro are a well run club and so I would be surprised if they had to lay a lot of people off. Sunderland have been a PL club for a few years now and so probably spend accordingly. I know they have a lot of debt so redundancies there will be more likely. Saying that the debt will be entirely player driven. The club is not flash and so should not have too many excess staff. It may be both teams need fewer match day staff but they will be temporary staff anyway.
They'll get millions in parachute payments and one of them will be back up next year.
 

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I'm not so sure either will go up next year. I can see a big cull happening at Sunderland to reduce the wage bill. Big turnovers of players rarely end well. I think they will be like Villa this year. Boro will have the best chance of bouncing back but they are not inspiring so I'm not sure there.
 
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I'm not so sure either will go up next year. I can see a big cull happening at Sunderland to reduce the wage bill. Big turnovers of players rarely end well. I think they will be like Villa this year. Boro will have the best chance of bouncing back but they are not inspiring so I'm not sure there.
I'm not sure which one, but think one of them will :)
 

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Does Klopp watch the same game as the rest of us? He seems to act like teams should open up and let Liverpool score instead of defend and counter attack. He blind to the fact his team doesn't create much without mane, or without random individual brilliance. Always blames the way the opposition play

united/arsenal/Chelsea have had to deal with it for years. You have to find a way to get through
 

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:D :D. Have Chelsea won the league because of yernited's,Arsenals, City's failures then??

No, because they'll have won it with more points than those teams have won it previously on, and possibly into the 90's this season.

Teams have won it on much lesser points than previous seasons winners because those challenging teams have suffered massive changes in some way, so those teams that finish higher but on the same points or less than they had attained previously haven't exactly improved, have they?

It's my opinion and I won't change it, it isn't a pop, it's how I see it.

When we won the title back to back both times achieving over 90 points, when it was next won with 89 did Utd improve or did Chelsea take the foot off the gas coming 2nd with 82 points I think?

I know and understand it's not as clear cut as that but I'm sure you get my meaning, Leicester being a case in point, they won the title with only 81 points, yes they did well and it was a great achievement, but my god all the usual challenging top 4-5 teams had a massive off season all together with only 2 teams scraping 70 points!

Without a much stronger bench and a couple more very good experienced signings to add to your current 1st team, you won't and can't stay in the hunting pack imo as those that have faltered this season I can't see standing still another season, but I can see Liverpool being too stretched with any European fixtures being added to an already threadbare squad so they'll be 5th/6th next season which is still a possibility this season!

IMHO 😉
 

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In fairness the goal kick was a shocking decision but his reaction was priceless:rofl:

Seemed like every time the camera was on him he was losing the plot.
Funny seeing Moreno doing bottle flips to keep him self amused.
Hope the Arsenal v Utd is a bit better.
 

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I see Liverpool have opened the door for United to slip through ................. let's just wait and see how United can balls it up this week !!
 

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I see Liverpool have opened the door for United to slip through ................. let's just wait and see how United can balls it up this week !!

That door has been opened and shut many times this season, who knows where it'll end?
 

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With the spuds losing, Liverpool drawing and Utd and the Arsenal sending me to sleep. Looks like being a good weekend for City and Chelsea.
 
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