And, we're off.....2016/17

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Just had another 10 mins talking to steve mcmanaman at airport after bumping into him and richard dunnne last night. He is a nice guy to talk to.
 

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Some cracking ties in the CL to look forward to.
Real v Bayern the pick of the bunch for me.

To me this is where the Champions League has diluted my interest.

About 15 years ago I would have (and did) made sure I watched a game like Real v Bayern. Now, they've played each other so often (compared to the old European Cup) that it just doesn't interest me as much in terms of making sure you watch the match.

Sure it will be a decent tie with 2 very good teams but, for me at least, it loses a bit/lot of it's appeal given how regularly the top teams play each other these days.

May well make sure I can watch the Leicester v Atletico games though.......
 

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Not easy for Leicester but to be honest, none of those sides will be an easy game. Liking the Real v Bayern game provided it has a firm referee that won't take any of the play acting both sides will no doubt engage in
 

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Two days after getting back and cannot get that first half performance outta my head. Proper wound me up. Lots of talk about a kid at Monaco. mbappe or whatever. he is a young kid who they are raving about. City have an acadamy. A good un. Why are we not raving about some of our kids. Why are they not being given a chance. Same for other clubs. Wheres the kids coming through.
 

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The nature of the biggest clubs means they can't often afford to let the best youth have the time in the first team they need to flourish, that's why the best youngsters come from lower levels than the CL teams.
 

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The nature of the biggest clubs means they can't often afford to let the best youth have the time in the first team they need to flourish, that's why the best youngsters come from lower levels than the CL teams.

Sad but true.
The top teams want instant success.
 

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I heard a youth coach from Charlton talking on the radio a while ago. When asked about how he attracts kids/parents ahead of them choosing Chelsea, arsenal etc and he talked about "a pathway". He kept repeating that phrase. He could show parents a direct pathway from junior level through to the reserves and then to the 1st team. Made perfect sense.

Some PL teams have a clear pathway but some, Chelsea, Utd and city absolutely don't. Very sad as city in particular used to be renowned for bringing young local kids through the ranks. Now they import kids from all over, have brilliant facilities but none get a chance.

Tashy, one for you. Back in the late 70's my dad looked after the Manchester Boys representative team for a few years. They won a national cup and a few of the team went on to be pro's. One of them was Dave Bennett. The city team in the 80's had plenty of locals in and around the team back then. A clear pathway in fact 😁
 

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Two days after getting back and cannot get that first half performance outta my head. Proper wound me up. Lots of talk about a kid at Monaco. mbappe or whatever. he is a young kid who they are raving about. City have an acadamy. A good un. Why are we not raving about some of our kids. Why are they not being given a chance. Same for other clubs. Wheres the kids coming through.

Because you sold your soul to the devil 😈
 

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Quite a few actually , Bellerin, Coquelin, Gibbs, Wilshere, etc came through Arsenal youth teams.

Bellerin 2 years in youth team at 16 -18 is not bringing him through. Coquelin joined you aged 17 and made 1st team debut at 17. Sorry but not bringing him through. Gibbs joining you at 15 is ok in my book. Jack Wiltshire at 9 is really bringing a kid through the ranks
 
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Quite a few actually , Bellerin, Coquelin, Gibbs, Wilshere, etc came through Arsenal youth teams.

Three of them came from other teams Youth Academies - only Wilshire came through the Arsenal Academy

Bellerin - Barcelona
Gibbs - Wimbeldon
Coqulein - some French team

Even the Mbbabe for Monaco was developed through another French team

There isn't many players that are developed through the whole clubs Academy and onto the first teams at most of the Prem Clubs

Rashford is the one player who went right through Man Utd academy and to play in the Prem for them
 

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I heard a youth coach from Charlton talking on the radio a while ago. When asked about how he attracts kids/parents ahead of them choosing Chelsea, arsenal etc and he talked about "a pathway". He kept repeating that phrase. He could show parents a direct pathway from junior level through to the reserves and then to the 1st team. Made perfect sense.

Some PL teams have a clear pathway but some, Chelsea, Utd and city absolutely don't. Very sad as city in particular used to be renowned for bringing young local kids through the ranks. Now they import kids from all over, have brilliant facilities but none get a chance.

Not sure I'd include Utd as not having a pathway. Don't they have some ridiculous stat that there has been a player that has come through their academy in every match day squad since 1950ish?
 
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