And, we're off.....2016/17

[clubchamp98]

I thought that about the first one. Herrera stood his ground and Hazard ran in to him. The second one there was barely a touch and Hazard took a dive.[/QUOTE
Harerra is noted for stupid fouls Hazard is noted for going down easy what did Oliver see there though.

 

[Tashyboy]

Tonight's talking points & stats for both teams..

When Owen Hargreaves and Chris Sutton drew each other’s former clubs, Chelsea and Manchester United, out of the bowl to set up this FA Cup quarter-final, it was instantly hailed the tie of the round.

It has the lot: pride of London versus cock of the North, league leaders against cup holders, Jose Mourinho returning again to the club that sacked him last season, and the two most successful English clubs of the past decade battling to add to their haul of 10 major trophies apiece in that time.

Picked for a weekday evening kick-off, it will also have the floodlit feel of a replay, though such rematches have now been consigned to the past in this venerable old tournament.

In our first FA Cup joust with post-Ferguson Man United, Chelsea are tilting at extending the unbeaten run against the Mancunians from 11 to 12 matches in all competitions. The Blues have won five of the past six meetings at the Bridge in league and cup. United have won only twice in their past 19 visits here.

The current record of 12 consecutive wins was first set between 17 May and 21 November 2009, and matched with results from 24 September 2014 to 10 January 2015, the second of those runs while Mourinho was at the tiller.

To arrive at this stage of the FA Cup, his current side saw off Championship clubs Reading, Wigan, and Blackburn, with a solitary goal against. The Blues’ took on League One Peterborough, and the second tier sides Brentford and Wolves, likewise conceding only once.

In-form Pedro’s goal in each round to date (four in total) means he can still emulate an English ‘Peter’ – the peerless Osgood – who hit the net in every round of the 1969/70 competition, including the replayed final.

Pedro’s superb finish at Molineux last month was unsurprisingly the 5ft 6in Spaniard’s first header in this competition, whereas five of the eight scored by 6ft 1in Ossie 47 years ago were nodded in.

Monday’s cup opponents are enjoying a long unbeaten run in the league stretching back to October. That last defeat was, of course, the one they endured at the Bridge. Pedro’s 29.6 seconds opener in that 4-0 triumph remains the fastest goal in the league this season.

The Premier League frontrunners will surely be in buoyant mood after Monday’s success at West Ham and Man City’s draw with Stoke, which reduced the maximum points now needed to win the title to 24. The Blues have had several days to prepare for this game and Antonio Conte has admitted the FA Cup is ‘another target for us’.

In contrast, Monday’s game is the second of four across three different competitions over 11 days for Man United. The first of three away trips among those required a 4,700-mile round trip to Russia in the Europa League on Thursday. The second leg is at Old Trafford three days after our FA Cup match.

Coincidentally, should the Red Devils progress to the last eight in Europe, the first and second legs would come either side of the Blues’ visit to Old Trafford, requiring further careful consideration of team selections and priorities. Winning the Europa League this season, remember, gains access to next season’s Champions League.

One of the rewards for winning the FA Cup is entry to the 2017/18 Europa League. Another is the £1.8m prize money. Each quarter-final winner earns £360,000 and National League leaders Lincoln City, who face embattled Arsenal this weekend, deserve enormous credit for their glorious achievement of becoming the first non-league club for 103 years to reach the last eight.

With gate money and broadcast revenue added, the Imps will receive a sudden, club-changing financial injection. They reportedly plan to invest it in infrastructure, especially training and medical areas. Incidentally, Arsenal’s latest 1-5 defeat at the hands of Carlo Ancelotti and Bayern in midweek was their biggest at home under Arsene Wenger since a 5-0 tonking by Gianluca Vialli’s Chelsea in the 1998/99 League Cup.

This weekend’s round of FA Cup quarter-final matches is the first ever in which there can be no replay. Any game tied after stoppages will be settled on the day with extra time and, if necessary, a penalty shoot-out.

Chelsea have lost our past two penalty shoot-outs, to Bayern Munich in the UEFA Super Cup and Stoke in the League Cup. Our most recent success was in the 2012 Champions League final against Bayern Munich.

Man United have lost their past four penalty shoot-outs. Their last success was in the 2009 League Cup final against Tottenham.

Should additional minutes be required, another innovation will come into play: the authority to use four of the seven substitutes named. This means that a team may use three at any time, and a fourth (or, indeed, all remaining subs up to the four allowed) in extra time.

Extra-time dramas and Man United are a further reminder of that 1970 replay against Leeds at Old Trafford. It was the first final since 1912 to require a second game, and still ranks as the highest ever UK television audience for club football, with 28.5 million viewers on the night.

On a more sombre note, it is the 40th anniversary this month of the tragic death of one of the club’s immortals from that FA Cup-winning night, Peter Houseman.

The Blues’ former winger and his wife Sally were killed by a reckless driver in a road accident on 20 March 1977. Their sons are guests of the club at Monday’s game.

Well written, how much are the pies though.

 

[pendodave]

Mou can complain all he likes. Herrara was on a yellow, and the captain had just been given a talking to by the ref because Utd keep chopping down Hazard. 10 seconds later, he chops him down again. Beyond brainless.

 

[The Evertonian]

Durban have pulled out of holding the 2022 Commonwealth Games. There were no other bids. Liverpool Council have offered to hold it. Logic says that like with Manchester a stadium could be built that will then be handed over to Everton. This stadium would be a proper one designed for football ultimately rather than the mess that is the West Ham stadium. It would mean Everton would have to wait another 5 years for a new ground but no doubt it would reduce their costs significantly.

I was down in Liverpool a week ago and was talking to relatives about this. The location is in an old dock area that would be cheap to buy and open for renovation. The worry was the access and crowd dispersal after a game. For those who know the city better than I do, what are your thoughts on this? What can be done to improve mobility and access around that area?

Try hard, difficult I know, to simply make jokes. (okay jokes are allowed at the end of each post if you feel the need)

Everton's 'hierarchy' were all down at Bramely Moore dock a couple of months ago, the local press were tipped off by the club and it was splashed all over The Echo.

There were also rumours the club has already got an agreement to purchase the land for £30M should they get the go-ahead for the stadium. I'm not sure if this latest talk of the 'games' being held in the city will hinder the clubs plans or help them.

Either way, for there to be a stadium in that part of the city there is a lot of infrastructure upheaval needed.

 

[ColchesterFC]

But he didn't "chop him down". There was barely any contact and Hazard took a dive.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Everton's 'hierarchy' were all down at Bramely Moore dock a couple of months ago, the local press were tipped off by the club and it was splashed all over The Echo.

There were also rumours the club has already got an agreement to purchase the land for £30M should they get the go-ahead for the stadium. I'm not sure if this latest talk of the 'games' being held in the city will hinder the clubs plans or help them.

Either way, for there to be a stadium in that part of the city there is a lot of infrastructure upheaval needed.

If they tie in with the Games then presumably the council, gov't and various bodies may contribute to the building and other costs. Infrastructure improvements may slide through easier as well. I can only see it helping, also being part of a redevelopment plan. The difficulty is moving people in and out. That's the toughest issue.

 

[Junior]

Herrera I don't think the first one was a yellow, but it was only a matter of time before he got 2 of them. He was getting stuck in and Hazard knows how to get a foul.

C'mon Yernited.....smash and grab time.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Durban have pulled out of holding the 2022 Commonwealth Games. There were no other bids. Liverpool Council have offered to hold it. Logic says that like with Manchester a stadium could be built that will then be handed over to Everton. This stadium would be a proper one designed for football ultimately rather than the mess that is the West Ham stadium. It would mean Everton would have to wait another 5 years for a new ground but no doubt it would reduce their costs significantly.

I was down in Liverpool a week ago and was talking to relatives about this. The location is in an old dock area that would be cheap to buy and open for renovation. The worry was the access and crowd dispersal after a game. For those who know the city better than I do, what are your thoughts on this? What can be done to improve mobility and access around that area?

Try hard, difficult I know, to simply make jokes. (okay jokes are allowed at the end of each post if you feel the need)

I wouldn't be very happy, as a council tax payer where there's been a massive reduction in services around the city, if the council "hand the stadium over" after the games IF we were successful in getting the games.

 

[pendodave]

But he didn't "chop him down". There was barely any contact and Hazard took a dive.

I said 'they' keep chopping him down. And they have, all night. Herrara just committed a 'normal' foul after the ref warned the skipper that he wasn't going to tolerate the persistent fouling of Hazard.

 

[ColchesterFC]

[/QUOTE] Harerra is noted for stupid fouls Hazard is noted for going down easy what did Oliver see there though.[/QUOTE]

If the referee is going to base his decisions on the reputation of the player then surely Fellani and Costa should be sent off before every match even starts.

 

[One Planer]

Harerra is noted for stupid fouls Hazard is noted for going down easy what did Oliver see there though.[/QUOTE]

If the referee is going to base his decisions on the reputation of the player then surely Fellani and Costa should be sent off before every match even starts.[/QUOTE]

:rofl:

 

[pendodave]

Have to say, when you watch a game like this,it reminds you how bang average a lot of the week to week stuff is. And this is two teams that i am happy to see lose every time they rock up.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I wouldn't be very happy, as a council tax payer where there's been a massive reduction in services around the city, if the council "hand the stadium over" after the games IF we were successful in getting the games.

Nobody else wants the Games, it's Liverpool's if they want it from what I see. What else would you do with a stadium if not hand it over. Clearly money has to be paid out but the amount is there to be negotiated. There may also be central gov't money as part of a regeneration plan, similar to the Olympic stadium area.

I do understand your point about taking this on at a time of cutbacks but it is amazing how money can be found when you think there isn't any.

 

[Fish]

Kante 😜👍

Nothing to do with 10 men as every red shirt was behind the ball, take a bow son 😎

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Nobody else wants the Games, it's Liverpool's if they want it from what I see. What else would you do with a stadium if not hand it over. Clearly money has to be paid out but the amount is there to be negotiated. There may also be central gov't money as part of a regeneration plan, similar to the Olympic stadium area.

I do understand your point about taking this on at a time of cutbacks but it is amazing how money can be found when you think there isn't any.

The council are already footing the £12m bill for schemes to improve roads, train stops etc around the site of the potential new stadium. I'm pretty sure councillor and life long blue joe Anderson will bend over backwards to make sure Everton get a hand just like he did with the deal at finch farm.

 

[Pin-seeker]

How much did UTD spend on Pogba?
😂😂😂

 

[ColchesterFC]

Rashford just made Cahill look like a Sunday league footballer with that run but has to score at the end of it. Poor attempt at the finish.

 

[The Evertonian]

Nobody else wants the Games, it's Liverpool's if they want it from what I see. What else would you do with a stadium if not hand it over. Clearly money has to be paid out but the amount is there to be negotiated. There may also be central gov't money as part of a regeneration plan, similar to the Olympic stadium area.

I do understand your point about taking this on at a time of cutbacks but it is amazing how money can be found when you think there isn't any.

I think the stadium plans are further down the line than people are really aware, the architect(Dan Meis) has already been given the gig from what I can gather.
I don't really care for the Comenwealth Games, I don't want the stadium to have any outside influences and I definitely don't want a bowl type stadium. It needs to be a purpose built stadium with Everton's needs at the top of the agenda.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The council are already footing the £12m bill for schemes to improve roads, train stops etc around the site of the potential new stadium. I'm pretty sure councillor and life long blue joe Anderson will bend over backwards to make sure Everton get a hand just like he did with the deal at finch farm.

I seem to remember Anderson and LPool FC announcing a 200 Mil regeneration project around Anfield or does that not count?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think the stadium plans are further down the line than people are really aware, the architect(Dan Meis) has already been given the gig from what I can gather.
I don't really care for the Comenwealth Games, I don't want the stadium to have any outside influences and I definitely don't want a bowl type stadium. It needs to be a purpose built stadium with Everton's needs at the top of the agenda.

Have Everton got the funding in place to not have to rely on outside influences?