And, we're off.....2016/17

[guest100718]

you as in "spurs fans"

when it comes to whiney bitches i doubt there's anyone on here whinier than you

 

[Tashyboy]

Why he has not started with De Bryune is beyond me.

 

[fundy]

when it comes to whiney bitches i doubt there's anyone on here whinier than you

Keyboard warrior strikes lol

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Why he has not started with De Bryune is beyond me.

I think I'm right in saying your record up there recently is not great, maybe wrong. Either way, not a game to take lightly. Put your best team out, get 3 points and move on. Sunderland are looking decent so far.

 

[Fish]

Sadly no, I was part of the 60's boom.

I take it from your tone you sit near to a Mr David Biddeal at Stamford Bridge

My tone?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

id take Arsenals total record over the last 20 years than Liverpools

CL record ? Not overall record

Edit : also trying to get the thread back to football

 

[Tashyboy]

I think I'm right in saying your record up there recently is not great, maybe wrong. Either way, not a game to take lightly. Put your best team out, get 3 points and move on. Sunderland are looking decent so far.

Of late we have won the last four up there, but we did go through a real bad patch.
Sterling is having an off day. Ad take him off put silva wide and de Bryune in the middle.
Always get nervous when one up and not taking chances. This seasons history has proved that.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

My dodgy memory, happy to be corrected. You don't look comfortable out there. One of those games you just have to win, don't worry about how.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I expected a politicians answer and you didn't disappoint.

Yes or No? Difficult or Not to finish top 4.

No one has said it's easy to finish in the top 4.

Arsenal have qualified for the CL regualry - yep decent achievement which shows where in the trophy cabinet or the honours list ? Is that the height of the ambition to just take part ? How about actually winning something of note in that period.

Arsenal are one of the biggest richest clubs in Europe ( top 10 I believe ) - as a business model is unbelievably successful will lots of cash coming in and not much going out but as a football club i expect a lot of people will say for the club they are the last ten years or since they last won the title its been a poor return - No league titles , no CL and teams with less resources have won both or at least got to finals.

Surely as an Arsenal fan you want more than just qualifying for the CL - you are a fan of one of the biggest clubs in the world and right now the results on the pitch are imo not good enough and that goes back to - not a lack of money or resources , not Chelsea and City have billions but the managers lack of ambition and being afraid to take risks in the transfer market. There have been a number of signings that Wenger could have made over the ten years which imo would have given Arsenal that extra bit more to get over the final hurdle.

I think it's now in the critical stage for Arsenal - fail to get top 4 and everything tumbles.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

My dodgy memory, happy to be corrected. You don't look comfortable out there. One of those games you just have to win, don't worry about how.

And then there is 10 seconds of class and it should be game over.

 

[clubchamp98]

Of late we have won the last four up there, but we did go through a real bad patch.
Sterling is having an off day. Ad take him off put silva wide and de Bryune in the middle.
Always get nervous when one up and not taking chances. This seasons history has proved that.

what a good player Sane is up and down always a end product.
great goal also but like to watch De Bryne he is quality
Sunderland not enough quality on the ball.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

No great revelation or insight with this comment but I can easily see the current bottom three remaining as the bottom three. I'm not sure that any of them have the quality to put a run together in the way th a Swansea or Leicester have recently.

 

[Hobbit]

No great revelation or insight with this comment but I can easily see the current bottom three remaining as the bottom three. I'm not sure that any of them have the quality to put a run together in the way th a Swansea or Leicester have recently.

Boro certainly don't have a goalscorer, nor anyone from midfield regularly chipping in a few. We're doomed, doomed I tell thee!

 

[sawtooth]

No one has said it's easy to finish in the top 4.

Arsenal have qualified for the CL regualry - yep decent achievement which shows where in the trophy cabinet or the honours list ? Is that the height of the ambition to just take part ? How about actually winning something of note in that period.

Arsenal are one of the biggest richest clubs in Europe ( top 10 I believe ) - as a business model is unbelievably successful will lots of cash coming in and not much going out but as a football club i expect a lot of people will say for the club they are the last ten years or since they last won the title its been a poor return - No league titles , no CL and teams with less resources have won both or at least got to finals.

Surely as an Arsenal fan you want more than just qualifying for the CL - you are a fan of one of the biggest clubs in the world and right now the results on the pitch are imo not good enough and that goes back to - not a lack of money or resources , not Chelsea and City have billions but the managers lack of ambition and being afraid to take risks in the transfer market. There have been a number of signings that Wenger could have made over the ten years which imo would have given Arsenal that extra bit more to get over the final hurdle.

I think it's now in the critical stage for Arsenal - fail to get top 4 and everything tumbles.

Everything tumbles? You are having a laugh. Arsenal are in an exceptional position and the next man coming in will have a fantastic opportunity.

And according to you Arsenal have been tumbling for the past 13 years which is absolute rubbish.

And if Man U can claim the EFL Cup as a major trophy then I' sure as hell claiming the 2 FA Cups in the past few years.

And if you rotate managers just because they don't win the League or CL then you will be going through a lot of managers. Do you think Spurs will sack Poch if he guides them to top 4 for the next 5 years without winning a trophy? Absolutely no chance, he'd be idolised and rightly so.

Spurs as good as they are will finish 6-7! next year away from the lane. No fault of their own, but Wembley pitch is bigger than WHL and they will also miss the atmosphere.

Do they sack Poch then? Again no chance.

It's not all about winning the league and CL. Unless you are Barcelona or Madrid.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Everything tumbles? You are having a laugh. Arsenal are in an exceptional position and the next man coming in will have a fantastic opportunity.

And according to you Arsenal have been tumbling for the past 13 years which is absolute rubbish.

And if Man U can claim the EFL Cup as a major trophy then I' sure as hell claiming the 2 FA Cups in the past few years.

And if you rotate managers just because they don't win the League or CL then you will be going through a lot of managers. Do you think Spurs will sack Poch if he guides them to top 4 for the next 5 years without winning a trophy? Absolutely no chance, he'd be idolised and rightly so.

Spurs as good as they are will finish 6-7! next year away from the lane. No fault of their own, but Wembley pitch is bigger than WHL and they will also miss the atmosphere.

Do they sack Poch then? Again no chance.

It's not all about winning the league and CL. Unless you are Barcelona or Madrid.

Why are you bringing Spurs into it ? Are Arsenal the same level of club as Spurs ? Is that a fair comparison.

What happens if Arsenal aren't in the CL when the next man comes in ? Is that really a exceptional position ? Players looking to leave - possibly due to lack of CL unable to attract the better players unless willing to spend big. The team isn't bursting with exceptional young talent ready to take on the world - Arsenal as a business model maybe in good standing but on the pitch ? Maybe not as good.

Clubs do sack managers when they don't achieve the expectations- we have sacked managers because they were not reaching the level the fans expect. Don't Arsenal fans expect the top trophies to be in their cabinet ?

And yes it is all about winning the league and CL for the big clubs in Europe - that should always be the aim. Winning one CL for me trumps qualifying for 20 years - would you swap qualifying all those years for one win

 

[Pin-seeker]

Here's a crazy idea,why not just agree to disagree.
Instead of just making the same points over & over & over again.

 

[sawtooth]

Why are you bringing Spurs into it ? Are Arsenal the same level of club as Spurs ? Is that a fair comparison.

What happens if Arsenal aren't in the CL when the next man comes in ? Is that really a exceptional position ? Players looking to leave - possibly due to lack of CL unable to attract the better players unless willing to spend big. The team isn't bursting with exceptional young talent ready to take on the world - Arsenal as a business model maybe in good standing but on the pitch ? Maybe not as good.

Clubs do sack managers when they don't achieve the expectations- we have sacked managers because they were not reaching the level the fans expect. Don't Arsenal fans expect the top trophies to be in their cabinet ?

And yes it is all about winning the league and CL for the big clubs in Europe - that should always be the aim. Winning one CL for me trumps qualifying for 20 years - would you swap qualifying all those years for one win

Because it helps to prove my point.

There are similarities with Spurs they are going down the same path with the stadium move and will be interesting to see how Spurs manage the situation.

Klopp and Liverpool will prove my point also and possibly Koeman and Everton too. Top 4 is acceptable maybe not in your eyes though.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

CL record ? Not overall record

Edit : also trying to get the thread back to football

When you say trying to get the thread back to football, do you actually mean you having a go at Arsenal fans and Sean in particular?

 

[Tashyboy]

Here's a crazy idea,why not just agree to disagree.
Instead of just making the same points over & over & over again.

You boring sod, some of us like Groundhog Day

That aside, City have clean sheets for last five away games. Eh, how's that happen. First look at Pickford and ah was impressed with him..
Thank god that banana skin has gone.

 

[Pin-seeker]

How good is Harry Kane?
Better than Lukaku,but I'd still put Aguero above him.