And, we're off.....2016/17

[sawtooth]

You avoiding the thread seem to be at the same time as Arsenal got mullered by Bayern - you seemed to disappear after that ? Have you had chance to reflect on that performance.

Hard to explain that performance. 1-1 at half time and arguably should have been ahead. Lost Kos to injury and it all unravelled. Bayern will beat bigger teams than Arsenal.

I don't think that a Liverpool supporter is in a position to mock do you? Even if you do have the best manager in the world and are on the way back 😷

 

[anotherdouble]

That's better keep it clean.

Talking of history, Chelsea's started in 2003.

A few gooners that you know is not representative of the whole fan base.👍

Don't no who my grandad took me to see in the 60's then if Chelsea were founded in 2003. I trusted my grandad and now I have just found out he was lying to my nan, mum and dad and me all the time because he told everybody we went to see Chelsea play. My whole life has been a lie

 

[fundy]

Hard to explain that performance. 1-1 at half time and arguably should have been ahead. Lost Kos to injury and it all unravelled. Bayern will beat bigger teams than Arsenal.

I don't think that a Liverpool supporter is in a position to mock do you? Even if you do have the best manager in the world and are on the way back 😷

Was ridiculously easy for almost everyone who watched the game. Bar a 15 minute spell in the first half we were by far inferior to them in every area on the park. We picked 2 central defensive midfielders who Bayern bypassed with ease exposing the defense, Thiago ran the show and we barely put a foot on him all game. Going forward Ozil barely had a kick, allowing them to double up on Sanchez and as per usual we had no plan B until it was far too late.

Remove the blinkers!!!!!

 

[sawtooth]

Was ridiculously easy for almost everyone who watched the game. Bar a 15 minute spell in the first half we were by far inferior to them in every area on the park. We picked 2 central defensive midfielders who Bayern bypassed with ease exposing the defense, Thiago ran the show and we barely put a foot on him all game. Going forward Ozil barely had a kick, allowing them to double up on Sanchez and as per usual we had no plan B until it was far too late.

Remove the blinkers!!!!!

Can you explain the difference between the first and second half?

I don't understand this blinkers term. We were second best but where is the shame in that against one of the very best teams in world football? In their own back yard?

If you wanted a 3 nil win to Arsenal can I suggest FiFA 2016 or Football manager. For now though let's get back to reality.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hard to explain that performance. 1-1 at half time and arguably should have been ahead. Lost Kos to injury and it all unravelled. Bayern will beat bigger teams than Arsenal.

I don't think that a Liverpool supporter is in a position to mock do you? Even if you do have the best manager in the world and are on the way back 😷

Really ? I suspect every single person can explain it - it was your stereotypical Arsenal last 16 KO performance - that same as the last decade - poor selection and poor tactics

 

[sawtooth]

Really ? I suspect every single person can explain it - it was your stereotypical Arsenal last 16 KO performance - that same as the last decade - poor selection and poor tactics

It's not easy though is it mate.

Look how your team is struggling to qualify let alone lose in the last 16.

On your last effort you went out at the group stage did you not?

Still Klopp will make it all better👍

 

[Fish]

Can you explain the difference between the first and second half?

Easy, you were lucky and hanging on at 1-1 in the first half and then imploded and were humiliated in the second half to finish 5-1.

You lacked direction, fight and leadership, in fact I can't recognise any leader in your team/squad, who is your captain by the way, oh yeah, it was given eventually to Gibbs :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's not easy though is it mate.

Look how your team is struggling to qualify let alone lose in the last 16.

On your last effort you went out at the group stage did you not?

Still Klopp will make it all better👍

Not talking about Liverpool - talking about Arsenal once again for the tenth year in a row I reckon will be out of the CL at last 16. And you think it's hard to explain ? Surely after a decade it might be easy to explain and time for something to change yes ?

 

[Fish]

It's not easy though is it mate.

Look how your team is struggling to qualify let alone lose in the last 16.

On your last effort you went out at the group stage did you not?

Still Klopp will make it all better👍

But it isn't about Liverpool is it, again your deflecting, Liverpool haven't been constantly in the top 4 and in a position to build or had a settled management and players, but you have, for me Arsenal have no excuses but the bit you just don't get or won't accept is, I don't think Wenger or the board is that bothered, I think they lack ambition and SETTLE for that top 4 position as a safety net year on year!

It was always the stadium was an excuse but even you stated before this season started that was not now going to be case and Wenger would spend, well did he, if he did I missed it?

 

[fundy]

Can you explain the difference between the first and second half?

I don't understand this blinkers term. We were second best but where is the shame in that against one of the very best teams in world football? In their own back yard?

If you wanted a 3 nil win to Arsenal can I suggest FiFA 2016 or Football manager. For now though let's get back to reality.

The blinkers term relates to you refusing to use your eyes and believe what they are telling you rather than constantly thinking we were unlucky, our time is coming, hard to explain that performance and all the other comments you make which are so far detached to what is actually happening on the pitch.

We lack a proper defensive midfielder, need another top class centre half, miss Cazorla and somehow have left ourselves with little cover for him, we lack size and fight in midfield. And above all, we lack a proper leader. What makes this worse is most of this has been an issue for most of the last 10 years.

Wrt to Wenger, I travelled home and away (incl Europe) for his early years. He was the messiah and as good as I will likely see at Arsenal in my lifetime. There were 2 great teams (the first part inherited from GG), based around big strong athletes who could play, supplemented by a couple of top class players going forward. There were leaders at the back and in midfield, actually all over the park. (think Adams, Bould, Viera, Petit, Henry etc etc)

It all changed in one game when we failed to win the champions league against Barcelonas tippy tappy brand of football. Suddenly out went strength, size, power and in came small technical players, most of who just havent cut it in the premier league. Since this change we have not had a leader worthy of the name and more often than not against the better sides been outfought in midfield. And year after year we repeat the same with little sign of it changing

 

[huds1475]

So because scum use certain phrases, its ok then?

Other scousers use terrible words to describe mancs, but it doesn't mean that I use them. Its called respect, and making your own standards. Do you think a scouser living in Manchester would be welcomed with open arms? It's obviously left a lasting, bitter and twisted scar, which you obviously cant get over, or at least don't want to.

We have a great thing going on in the NW, everyone has always been made welcome no matter what creed, colour, gender, footy team etc We all have respect for each other and have become great mates over the 3-4 years that we have known each other, and long may it continue.

However, you continually snipe and post perjorative words about scousers and yesterday was way across the line - and it was directed at us on here. Your nice as pie to us in person, but it changes on-line. Its not just the scousers you've upset on here with some of your antics, which is maybe why you sign up for every meet in the UK, although seldom finally attend.

I didn't see a sincere apology, and don't want one, as this has been more of a catalogue of insults, but don't be expecting to ever be invited to something that I organise, although I know you'll say your not bothered........

You only have yourself to blame, and don't want to get into more of a slanging match (so take to PM if you want), but maybe a life lesson to learn for you is to not tar everyone with the same brush. I've tried to avoid this thread for over a month because of the toxicity of what this once fine thread has become, and this only re-inforces it.

There's a large amount of assumption in your post Peter. You've taken some very simple statements, added your own theories, and come up with some kind of conspiracy.

That said, you're very entitled to your own opinions, and to express them however you choose.

Your pomposity however, is laughable, and certainly pressed my chuckle-button. I haven't laughed that much since your 'Ask Linda' fiasco.

No need for PM's.

 

[sawtooth]

Easy, you were lucky and hanging on at 1-1 in the first half and then imploded and were humiliated in the second half to finish 5-1.

You lacked direction, fight and leadership, in fact I can't recognise any leader in your team/squad, who is your captain by the way, oh yeah, it was given eventually to Gibbs :rofl:

We lacked a leader when Koscielny went off I concede that. Up to the point that he got injured we looked pretty solid.

It's true that we don't have enough leaders on the pitch, something that Wenger or the next man coming in will no doubt look at.

Losing a player like Kos can be very destabilising. Easily one of the best CB in the PL , most teams would miss him.

Spurs miss Vertonghen or Alderweider when they don't play.

Chelsea will miss Cahill or Luiz .

Liverpool will miss Matip, actually they wouldn't because he is not very good.😀

 

[guest100718]

Anyone esle going to Spurs V Millwall?

COYS!

 

[fundy]

We lacked a leader when Koscielny went off I concede that. Up to the point that he got injured we looked pretty solid.

It's true that we don't have enough leaders on the pitch, something that Wenger or the next man coming in will no doubt look at.

Losing a player like Kos can be very destabilising. Easily one of the best CB in the PL , most teams would miss him.

Spurs miss Vertonghen or Alderweider when they don't play.

Chelsea will miss Cahill or Luiz .

Liverpool will miss Matip, actually they wouldn't because he is not very good.😀

youre using a convenient excuse there Sawtooth. I rate Kos but to call him a leader is very generous. What do you think the score wouldve been if he had played 90 minutes? Why dont we have decent cover? Why hasnt Wenger addressed the leader issue by now?

 

[sawtooth]

youre using a convenient excuse there Sawtooth. I rate Kos but to call him a leader is very generous. What do you think the score wouldve been if he had played 90 minutes? Why dont we have decent cover? Why hasnt Wenger addressed the leader issue by now?

No idea but it would not have been 5-1 that's for sure.

Maybe he thought that he had with the purchases. Back to the drawing board though probably. People will laugh but I still reckon Holding will turn out great for us and probably England too. The main difference between him and Stones right now is about £48M (cue laughter)

 

[Tashyboy]

He might not like the weather.
if I could play football in London or Milan it would not be in the pissing down rain and cold.

I take it you have never been to Milan. Coz when it rains the cats and dogs are massive and when it snows. Hella bells and buckets of blood. If its the weather he is staying in london

 

[Fish]

Chelsea will miss Cahill or Luiz .

But we wouldn't as we have just as good if not better with Zouma in the wings and also Nathan Ake, that's the difference if you want to win things, your bench has to be strong and has to have the ability and quality to change the game and replace suspended, injured or rested players, we have that and you don't.

 

[Tashyboy]

Anyone esle going to Spurs V Millwall?

COYS!

why would you unless there is a cheap offer on facial reconstruction.

 

[guest100718]

why would you unless there is a cheap offer on facial reconstruction.

Ah we'll be fine.

 

[pbrown7582]

Anyone esle going to Spurs V Millwall?

COYS!

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