And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Liverbirdie]

Firstly, I dont excuse Allison's mistakes, as they didnt cause too much harm on the day. Mistakes should be cut out, no matter. However, his overall figures are outstanding and a club best for a start to the season.

I havent highlighted all of Pickfords mistakes or errors, as I would like to have time to read a book sometime.

The dynamic of when i have highlighted Pickford's mistakes is when he has tried to dribble or be fancy - exactly what he criticised Allison for, or even if not directly by inference. he did that interview in te week after the Allison mistake at Leicester, knowing that as an Everton player he will curry lots of favour in most Blue's eyes by giving a bit to a Liverpool player, either indirectly or directly.

The "row Z" may have been an unquoted headline, or a quote in another paper. Again, I dont want to win an argument that much I'll spend 30 minutes googling it.

 

[PJ87]

Seriously ? You go dragging back through the thread to pick out a prediction ? Christ there is prob hundreds of posts of people predicting stuff about people’s teams but it’s just a prediction - I don’t expect many sad people go back and drag up posts like that - even more so when there is a long way left in the season just yet - imagine how you would look if it all came crashing down.

long way left yes but to predict MP would get us relegated and we would be lucky to have double digits in points by xmas was it?

another classic..

Yep and a lot of new players - too many tbh and also I don’t think the right quality needed , a manager who i suspect hasn’t had to graft and battle in a job before. They could easily be pointless going into October then it’s nothing but an uphill struggle

despite the fact that MP has battled before in laliga when he lost the 4 opening matches turned it around to finish 4th

far far too much was made of a 4-0 away to liverpool who look fantastic in every game this season.. they blew a club has huge as man united off the pitch yesterday at times..

now we are almost half way through the season im still confident of my £20 H4H bet.. which I can dig out aswell...

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Firstly, I dont excuse Allison's mistakes, as they didnt cause too much harm on the day. Mistakes should be cut out, no matter. However, his overall figures are outstanding and a club best for a start to the season.

I havent highlighted all of Pickfords mistakes or errors, as I would like to have time to read a book sometime.

The dynamic of when i have highlighted Pickford's mistakes is when he has tried to dribble or be fancy - exactly what he criticised Allison for, or even if not directly by inference. he did that interview in te week after the Allison mistake at Leicester, knowing that as an Everton player he will curry lots of favour in most Blue's eyes by giving a bit to a Liverpool player, either indirectly or directly.

The "row Z" may have been an unquoted headline, or a quote in another paper. Again, I dont want to win an argument that much I'll spend 30 minutes googling it.

Why not accept you quoted incorrectly, people liked your post, the post is wrong.
No Scouser likes the media twisting things, so when they twist what he said it’s just as wrong.
Pity you had to have a little dig as well. Oh well off the thread again.

 

[Dan2501]

Love a pointless stat: If Man Utd were 19 points off the top in La Liga, they would be 18th

 

[Liverbirdie]

Why not accept you quoted incorrectly, people liked your post, the post is wrong.
No Scouser likes the media twisting things, so when they twist what he said it’s just as wrong.
Pity you had to have a little dig as well. Oh well off the thread again.

Quoted incorrectly (possibly) - the inference was still correct.

No dig, back to work.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Firstly, I dont excuse Allison's mistakes, as they didnt cause too much harm on the day. Mistakes should be cut out, no matter. However, his overall figures are outstanding and a club best for a start to the season.

I havent highlighted all of Pickfords mistakes or errors, as I would like to have time to read a book sometime.

The dynamic of when i have highlighted Pickford's mistakes is when he has tried to dribble or be fancy - exactly what he criticised Allison for, or even if not directly by inference. he did that interview in te week after the Allison mistake at Leicester, knowing that as an Everton player he will curry lots of favour in most Blue's eyes by giving a bit to a Liverpool player, either indirectly or directly.

The "row Z" may have been an unquoted headline, or a quote in another paper. Again, I dont want to win an argument that much I'll spend 30 minutes googling it.

I believe it was an Everton fan who brought Pickford into the equation - I guess was waiting for an error from Alisson .

Rest of the post was spot on - If that was Ming or Karius I expect the rest of the game they would have been mentally shot and the CB’s would have felt nervous going back to them. Both VVD and Lovren knew it was an uncharacteristic error because his hands have been nothing but safe since arriving so you could tell they had and have no issues with him behind them

And what do you think of the Draw ? Pretty happy tbh

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Think it’s more worrying that England’s number 1 keeper is making errors more often !

Congratulations on becoming an Everton fan.

 

[PJ87]

Congratulations on becoming an Everton fan.

its an honour lol

 

[Lord Tyrion]

its an honour lol

We are a friendly bunch, no chips on our shoulders, generally happy so you will fit in. Welcome aboard . We also, as per WH, like a way of football that is easy on the eye and were equally glad to ditch the remover of joy from all football, not Jose, Big Sam.

 

[PJ87]

We are a friendly bunch, no chips on our shoulders, generally happy so you will fit in. Welcome aboard . We also, as per WH, like a way of football that is easy on the eye and were equally glad to ditch the remover of joy from all football, not Jose, Big Sam.

he did get us some good results and played some ok football but jezzz he was boring

his legacy lives on tho.... andy carroll is still here lol master stroke of business

 

[Liverbirdie]

We are a friendly bunch, no chips on our shoulders, generally happy so you will fit in. Welcome aboard . We also, as per WH, like a way of football that is easy on the eye and were equally glad to ditch the remover of joy from all football, not Jose, Big Sam.

Match goers tend to invest a bit more on the financial as well as the emotional side, so if you see that as having a chip on a shoulder, pass the vinegar.

I also suppose that most of Moyes's years and the earlier "dogs of war" team was based on the mythical "school of science"?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Match goers tend to invest a bit more on the financial as well as the emotional side, so if you see that as having a chip on a shoulder, pass the vinegar.

I also suppose that most of Moyes's years and the earlier "dogs of war" team was based on the mythical "school of science"?

There was no directing the chip on shoulder comment to anyone so if you've plucked that out for yourself.................................

Moyes took over at a dark time for us and it was needs must for a while. Dogs of War was not a proud era, it was grim stuff. Once Moyes had stabilised the club he definitely improved the quality of play, no question. Only the press, old ones at that, use the School of Science line. Fans haven't rolled that out for donkeys years.

 

[Liverbirdie]

On the subject of keepers, Ive not seen Liverpool (under Klopp) take so many "pot-shots" at goal before and from so far out either, not even close.

Up until last year, you would have thought it would be madness to take 5-6 x 30 yarders at de Gea. This looked like an identifiable tactic by Jurgen - does he think de gea is also struggling this season?

Ok de gea's no Pickford, but...........

 

[Liverbirdie]

There was no directing the chip on shoulder comment to anyone so if you've plucked that out for yourself.................................

Moyes took over at a dark time for us and it was needs must for a while. Dogs of War was not a proud era, it was grim stuff. Once Moyes had stabilised the club he definitely improved the quality of play, no question. Only the press, old ones at that, use the School of Science line. Fans haven't rolled that out for donkeys years.

Ok, maybe timing again, eh?

Wasnt the dogs of war under Joe Royle though and not Moyes, so Sam may be following in a long line.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ok, maybe timing again, eh?

Wasnt the dogs of war under Joe Royle though and not Moyes, so Sam may be following in a long line.

Correct, it was the Royle era. Sam somehow made it even more turgid. It was the sheer numbers behind the ball, the reluctance to send numbers forward. Royle had us playing 'tenacious' football. Not pretty but he at least sent players over the half way line. Royle also brought a trophy to the cabinet, he did think the FA cup was worth winning

 

[fundy]

On the subject of keepers, Ive not seen Liverpool (under Klopp) take so many "pot-shots" at goal before and from so far out either, not even close.

Up until last year, you would have thought it would be madness to take 5-6 x 30 yarders at de Gea. This looked like an identifiable tactic by Jurgen - does he think de gea is also struggling this season?

Ok de gea's no Pickford, but...........

to me this looked like a huge error yesterday, kept wasting possession with centre halves shooting from 25 yards out. Shaqiri made a massive difference by actually looking to create chances than just pot shot (albeit he obviously had the lucky gene working well too )

if pot shotting against De Gea was a Klopp tactic Id see that as a negative not a positive based on the quality you have up front!

 

[pokerjoke]

to me this looked like a huge error yesterday, kept wasting possession with centre halves shooting from 25 yards out. Shaqiri made a massive difference by actually looking to create chances than just pot shot (albeit he obviously had the lucky gene working well too )

if pot shotting against De Gea was a Klopp tactic Id see that as a negative not a positive based on the quality you have up front!

Fundy you talk sense.
The reason for lots of shots from so far out was obvious your one season wonder went missing all game resulting in pot shots from 30 yards.
Yes we were rubbish and it was the result most expected.
Salah in this game was poor but Lukaku performance was one of the worst by a Utd forward I’ve seen for a decade.

 

[3offTheTee]

Which is worse:

1. Your team playing another mid table team at home, winning 2-0 with 10 minutes to go and drawing 2-2.

2. Your team 4th from bottom playing a top 4 side away, drawing 0-0 after 90 minutes and home side win 1-0.

Any reasoning for your decision would be appreciated.

 

[clubchamp98]

Which is worse:

1. Your team playing another mid table team at home, winning 2-0 with 10 minutes to go and drawing 2-2.

2. Your team 4th from bottom playing a top 4 side away, drawing 0-0 after 90 minutes and home side win 1-0.

Any reasoning for your decision would be appreciated.

One is worse imo as you may not expect much from game 2.
But need to beat teams around you.

 

[huds1475]

to me this looked like a huge error yesterday, kept wasting possession with centre halves shooting from 25 yards out.

Wasn't a problem, we just gave it straight back anyway. Was embarrassing.

If we'd have given Citeh the ball back as quickly as we did yesterday we'd have been on the end of a double-digit hammering