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Got to feel for keepers we all highlight their mistakes but outfield players can make a few mistakes and get away with it.

Saw the stats recently about the mistakes Lloris has made compared to the amount of games he's played, can't remember the exact amount but it was very few.

Seriously? I would have thought he would have been one of the higher ones?
 

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How many did you concede second half of season fella?
No doubt Becker is a massive step up, but I think a certain Dutch bugger has played a bigger part.

VVD
Allison
Gomez
Full backs choosing when to go, or not.
Klopp being more savvy and getting the balance better

The above isnt necessarily in order either, for the reasons we have improved defensively.
 

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VVD
Allison
Gomez
Full backs choosing when to go, or not.
Klopp being more savvy and getting the balance better

The above isnt necessarily in order either, for the reasons we have improved defensively.
I reckon I’d say that is pretty much an order tbf Pete. In regards to importance of personnel at least.

Think Klopp has faith now that you’ll keep clean sheets, and with your players goals will come without the need for reckless abandon.
 

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He's made 15 mistakes leading to goals in 220 games, not bad I thought but apparently he's joint 9th for mistakes for goalkeepers in Premship history.
It’s just highlighted more though.
How many chances do strikers miss.
How many mistakes do defenders make.
If anyone here can say they have never made a mistake at work they are doing well.
 
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VVD
Allison
Gomez
Full backs choosing when to go, or not.
Klopp being more savvy and getting the balance better

The above isnt necessarily in order either, for the reasons we have improved defensively.

You've forgot the worlds best CB Lovren🤭
 

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As has been said, all keepers make mistakes. The better ones make fewer. Perhaps after another Allison mistake certain posters on here may stop swaggering each time England's no 1 makes one. That only works when your own keeper is perfect.

Back to Utd, any Utd fan still want Mourinho to stay and if so why?
 

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As has been said, all keepers make mistakes. The better ones make fewer. Perhaps after another Allison mistake certain posters on here may stop swaggering each time England's no 1 makes one. That only works when your own keeper is perfect.

Back to Utd, any Utd fan still want Mourinho to stay and if so why?

I think you'll find that most posts on Pickford by us reds have been a result of his own "holier than thou" instant reaction to Alison's mistake at Leicester.

In his own words, "I'm not scared to put it in row Z, when required". He set himself up for his own fall.(y)
 

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But to keep going on gets repetitive after a while. You can be smug when your keeper never makes a mistake but if he is the same then time to let it go and move on. The alternative is we Blue's fans post, 'should have put into row Z' each time Allison makes a mistake and you guys post the Pickford quote each time he does. Shall we call it quits? (y)
 
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But to keep going on gets repetitive after a while. You can be smug when your keeper never makes a mistake but if he is the same then time to let it go and move on. The alternative is we Blue's fans post, 'should have put into row Z' each time Allison makes a mistake and you guys post the Pickford quote each time he does. Shall we call it quits? (y)

The big difference is “England’s Number One” mistakes has cost his club and national team points or wins or draws - very costly mistakes and Alisson didn’t open his mouth when “England’s Number one” made a monumental mistake that cost his team in their biggest game of the season.

Alisson isn’t the same as “England’s Number One” ( is he changing his name by dees poll ) - Alisson two mistakes haven’t cost the team and his performances have helped the team sit top of the table and into the KO of the CL
 

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The big difference is “England’s Number One” mistakes has cost his club and national team points or wins or draws - very costly mistakes and Alisson didn’t open his mouth when “England’s Number one” made a monumental mistake that cost his team in their biggest game of the season.

Alisson isn’t the same as “England’s Number One” ( is he changing his name by dees poll ) - Alisson two mistakes haven’t cost the team and his performances have helped the team sit top of the table and into the KO of the CL
I don’t think Pickford is even remotely in the same league as Becker in regards to ability tbh. But imo when the mistakes happen is pure luck or bad luck as such...... not sure that when they occur really adds or detracts from the players ability.

What I would totally ageee about is the hype surrounding Pickford has gone way ott due to the last World Cup. He seems to believe he is the second coming. It’s nit the first time he’s run his mouth either. He did the same after World Cup penalty shoot out too.
 
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I think you'll find that most posts on Pickford by us reds have been a result of his own "holier than thou" instant reaction to Alison's mistake at Leicester.

In his own words, "I'm not scared to put it in row Z, when required". He set himself up for his own fall.(y)
If that was the actual quote and his own words you’d have a point.

“I try not to do tricks because I don’t want to be caught with it. It’s a risk.
“It’s a style of play and I think that’s the way Liverpool want to play as well. You’ve got to accept where mistakes will happen and it’s about not making the next one.
“It’s all about managing the game and not making it again in the same game I’d say. Look at Ederson at City, Guardiola puts a lot of faith in him doing it and mistakes happen all over the pitch - the goalkeeper mistake is always a crucial one or gets talked about a lot.
“For me, I’m going to try not to put myself in that position to make those mistakes.. You don’t want to get too comfortable if you’re winning and start trying to be a No 10 player.”
 
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