And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[PJ87]

For those writing off Wolves, you may be in for a shock. They were a class above the rest of the Championship last season. Some big, strong players in that team. They play at speed and a fair bit of skill. They've spent a fortune during the summer, bringing in some very good players.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made 10th-12th.

wolves have been outstanding. they look brilliant going forward but suspect a bit at the back. could be a great open game at the weekend against them. either that or they will batter us

 

[PJ87]

You’re preaching to the converted mate, but missing my point, you’re telling others not to judge West Ham as it’s too early, but you’re judging others against the same criteria.
Bad, and good, starts to the season can set the tone for a quite a few months.
Last season they let Koeman spend a fortune with us and after 6 games had 4 points, nobody outside of Everton actually cared that 5 of those games were against teams who were (and did) likely to be battling out for the PL and top 6. We were bottom and no amount of supporters faith at that time was helping the players.

whilst I get what your saying I cant see cardiff or huddersfield doing well this season just because they havent got the players in place

but lets see come xmas whos actually in trouble

even bottle at xmas means nothing anymore.. that voodoo was broken

 

[Deleted member 16999]

For those writing off Wolves, you may be in for a shock. They were a class above the rest of the Championship last season. Some big, strong players in that team. They play at speed and a fair bit of skill. They've spent a fortune during the summer, bringing in some very good players.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made 10th-12th.

Anybody writing anyone off at this stage is daft.
Sometimes though things can be overlooked.
Wolves are rightly getting some praise, but is too much just yet and are they being set up for a fall, twice behind to Everton at home, who for over half the game had 10 men, inexperience showed away at Leics, yesterday they got very lucky with their goal and City hit the woodwork 3 times, on another day they could of been stuffed.
Totally agree they look to have some quality players, but right now they are only 2 points above West Ham who some are saying have big problems, next saturday could be a 6 point relegation battle for them both :rofl:
10 games in is enough to at least see were the majority are likely to finish, Christmas to give a fair indication and then we’ll have the odd anomally who’ll surprise everyone either up or down.

 

[Tashyboy]

Anybody writing anyone off at this stage is daft.
Sometimes though things can be overlooked.
Wolves are rightly getting some praise, but is too much just yet and are they being set up for a fall, twice behind to Everton at home, who for over half the game had 10 men, inexperience showed away at Leics, yesterday they got very lucky with their goal and City hit the woodwork 3 times, on another day they could of been stuffed.
Totally agree they look to have some quality players, but right now they are only 2 points above West Ham who some are saying have big problems, next saturday could be a 6 point relegation battle for them both :rofl:
10 games in is enough to at least see were the majority are likely to finish, Christmas to give a fair indication and then we’ll have the odd anomally who’ll surprise everyone either up or down.

Thought that was a good write up. City disnt get the rub of the green yesterday. But at times neiether did Wolves. They look organised and there are players in that team with skill and experience. They set up well v City where as Huddersfield didnt. Yet Huddersfield played City last year so should of known what to expect. Think Wolves will upset one or two this year.

 

[Fish]

whilst I get what your saying I cant see cardiff or huddersfield doing well this season just because they havent got the players in place

but lets see come xmas whos actually in trouble

even bottle at xmas means nothing anymore.. that voodoo was broken

Huddersfield has had 1 of the toughest starts imo, Chelsea then City away, ok I’d have liked to see them pick up all the points against Cardiff but I think they can build on that point, which is 1 more point than you have and against much tougher opposition.

Huddersfield played some very good football against Chelsea, and were unlucky not to level the score on a few occasions.

I’ll give you a bet so you can lay-off your Liverpool bet with Phil, if your feeling confident, I’ll bet £20 (to your Bobby Moore charity) that Huddersfield finish above West Ham, now that’s juicy 😜

 

[PJ87]

Huddersfield has had 1 of the toughest starts imo, Chelsea then City away, ok I’d have liked to see them pick up all the points against Cardiff but I think they can build on that point, which is 1 more point than you have and against much tougher opposition.

Huddersfield played some very good football against Chelsea, and were unlucky not to level the score on a few occasions.

I’ll give you a bet so you can lay-off your Liverpool bet with Phil, if your feeling confident, I’ll bet £20 (to your Bobby Moore charity) that Huddersfield finish above West Ham, now that’s juicy 😜

i disagree about the start because 1 point isnt against harder teams

id love to have played cardiff this early in the season. bournemouth are a tough team!

anyways ill take you up on that on the £20 bet

so for the record I have a £20 bet going with Phil that west ham will finish 10 points clear of 18th place. and now a £20 bet with fish for west ham to finish above huddersfield

bring on the season!

either way 2 charities will get some cash

no more bets though! I have my wife and daughters birthdays in june! i need some cash lol

 

[PJ87]

Chelsea for sale apparently? 2billion after a row with the gov about his visa

 

[Tashyboy]

i disagree about the start because 1 point isnt against harder teams

id love to have played cardiff this early in the season. bournemouth are a tough team!

anyways ill take you up on that on the £20 bet

so for the record I have a £20 bet going with Phil that west ham will finish 10 points clear of 18th place. and now a £20 bet with fish for west ham to finish above huddersfield

bring on the season!

either way 2 charities will get some cash

no more bets though! I have my wife and daughters birthdays in june! i need some cash lol

al bet you £20 you dont have any money for there birthdays. 😁

 

[PJ87]

al bet you £20 you dont have any money for there birthdays. 😁

Probably lol

 

[Liverbirdie]

I want Connor Coady tested, his gobs on speed 

He's a scouser.....we practice from an early age.

 

[Liverbirdie]

So Richarlison gets a red but last week Kennedy gets nothing....
Now I'm definitely finished with football.

I'm convinced that the new guidelines for Red card is "If the player is in Liverbirdie's fantasy league team......"

Jagielka (entered 20 minutes before the 1st gameweek started), Vardy, Richarlison (subbed in this week).

Ive now also got Zaha on a booking, I think Harry Hornet's getting a semi on as we speak.........

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Michael Owen has stated that for the last few years of his career he was terrified to run in case he had more muscle injuries. Not terrified enough to say to Newcastle, Utd or stoke, hey lads, perhaps I shouldn't be taking all of my salary from you. He is held in contempt by most Newcastle fans and he keeps confirming why they are right to do so.

 

[PJ87]

Michael Owen has stated that for the last few years of his career he was terrified to run in case he had more muscle injuries. Not terrified enough to say to Newcastle, Utd or stoke, hey lads, perhaps I shouldn't be taking all of my salary from you. He is held in contempt by most Newcastle fans and he keeps confirming why they are right to do so.

Can you really trust a bloke who doesn’t drink tea?! Is he even English.

 

[Fish]

Michael Owen has stated that for the last few years of his career he was terrified to run in case he had more muscle injuries. Not terrified enough to say to Newcastle, Utd or stoke, hey lads, perhaps I shouldn't be taking all of my salary from you. He is held in contempt by most Newcastle fans and he keeps confirming why they are right to do so.

Have you watched the full video clip (15 minutes), I thought he was very genuine and honest, and he even spoke to a couple of chairmen about retiring because the fans had bigger expectations to what he could deliver and was frustrated knowing he was restricted in how he could perform.

Don’t forget football clubs also earn good commercial money from players like Owen, whether they play or are on the bench.

Managers/coaches were fully aware of his vulnerability to injuries when signing him, they do medical you know, but he still played far more games than many others, and the critics, like you still want your pound of flesh.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Michael Owen has stated that for the last few years of his career he was terrified to run in case he had more muscle injuries. Not terrified enough to say to Newcastle, Utd or stoke, hey lads, perhaps I shouldn't be taking all of my salary from you. He is held in contempt by most Newcastle fans and he keeps confirming why they are right to do so.

Actually he was afraid of running and sprinting from the age of 19 when he did his hamstring very badly at Leeds - he then spent the rest of his career very nervous it would go yet still putting the goals away but running on two hamstrings in one leg.

Have you watched the full video ? Or just picked out some highlights. At Newcastle he was affected by the ACL injury which harmed his output for them - not his fault is it that he suffered a very serious injury and then at Stoke he even offered to retire midway through the season - something else he says in the interview.

 

[Tashyboy]

Always admired MO. Thought he was excellent but played to much football when he was young. He said he tried to adapt his game. But his game was built around pace. Similar to walcott and stirling. But a better finisher by a country mile.

 

[Jensen]

Michael Owen has stated that for the last few years of his career he was terrified to run in case he had more muscle injuries. Not terrified enough to say to Newcastle, Utd or stoke, hey lads, perhaps I shouldn't be taking all of my salary from you. He is held in contempt by most Newcastle fans and he keeps confirming why they are right to do so.

We the exception of when he had 3 lions on his shirt 🙄 That's ALL that interested Owen.

 

[Jensen]

3 Lions on a shirt, that's all that interests Owen
Country over club, we know which way he's going (music Baddiel & Skinner)

 

[Lord Tyrion]

We the exception of when he had 3 lions on his shirt  That's ALL that interested Owen.

I agree with this. He coasted through his time up here.

I've got no problem criticising Owen for his time at Newcastle. He was a bad buy by the then chairman who bought him for his own ego. It was clear he didn't want to come but stupidly kept going and bought him. Owen looked reluctant from the beginning and never bought into the place. Ask any Toon fan, they'll tell you he was one of the biggest wastes of money, fee and wages, in the clubs history.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree with this. He coasted through his time up here.

I've got no problem criticising Owen for his time at Newcastle. He was a bad buy by the then chairman who bought him for his own ego. It was clear he didn't want to come but stupidly kept going and bought him. Owen looked reluctant from the beginning and never bought into the place. Ask any Toon fan, they'll tell you he was one of the biggest wastes of money, fee and wages, in the clubs history.

It wasn’t Owens fault he got injured a lot at Newcastle which blighted his time up there and pretty much ruined 18 months of a season - It’s typical of Newcastle fans to point fingers at Owen , when fit he still scored goals for them - he had a number of serious injuries one I believe helped Newcastle get about 7/8 mil in compensation was it ?