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Shocking elbow, and why wasn’t Richie sent off for the pen?

I wonder who’s won the the dressing room pot for the most studs they could implant on Hazard......

Get in 😎😂😂😂😂
 

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It's a shame Chelsea didn't score earlier.

Exactly, could have been a good game, Newcastle 5-4-1 tactics suddeny go against them, then we have a game at last once we score.

At least City, Utd, Liverpool etc know what to expect now when going there.
 
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Exactly, could have been a good game, Newcastle 5-4-1 tactics suddeny go against them, then we have a game at last once we score.

At least Spurs, Liverpool etc know what to expect now when going there.

In fairness though, if they open up and go for it they'd get torn apart. Realistically what else with their squad do you expect.
I'll expect the same when Spurs go there.
 

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Reap what you sow, I think Newcastle could have given Chelsea a good game going by the last 10 minutes, but to play so negatively from the start so early in the season, I’d be questioning those tactics personally.

It’s results like this that can make or break your season, Hazard lucky to be walking off.
 

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City next for Newcastle, I’m going for a 5-5 formation 😜

I agree with Souness, have a go, I’d rather lose battling than be so shackled like Rafa set up his side today.
 
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I'm not a Newcastle fan, I just live here. The chairman was poor, no question and he wasted pot loads. I do expect any player, particularly a record buy and on top wages, to give everything to the cause. He didn't do that at St James. It was clear at the time and this interview does nothing to help his cause. If he didn't feel capable of fully committing during a match then that is a huge issue. Do you think he told the chairman or manager that?
Just watched the whole interview, not sure how I see it, he was sort of admitting he took wages under false pretences for his last 6-7 years, admits to taking up bad positions on purpose so he wouldn’t be passed to, but at the same time his injuries had been quite severe so can he you blame him?
I know the Mags fans have never really forgiven him for not being up for relegation dog fights when he fit, but clubs who offered him the contracts were surely aware of his history and limitations.
The fans would be ignorant to a lot of that and, imo, they have a right to feel aggrieved by both his actions and the Clubs.
 

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Just watched the whole interview, not sure how I see it, he was sort of admitting he took wages under false pretences for his last 6-7 years, admits to taking up bad positions on purpose so he wouldn’t be passed to, but at the same time his injuries had been quite severe so can he you blame him?
I know the Mags fans have never really forgiven him for not being up for relegation dog fights when he fit, but clubs who offered him the contracts were surely aware of his history and limitations.
The fans would be ignorant to a lot of that and, imo, they have a right to feel aggrieved by both his actions and the Clubs.
There are some things you should never reveal , Think this is one.
You do have to question the managers for picking him if he’s hiding.
The fans can usually tell their not stupid!.
 

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Watched the whole Owen interview and was refreshed by his candid and open comments especially about how he wanted to make the runs and basically his brain told him not too and how he started playing differently (not always effectively) and taking up different positions just so he didn't have to make the sprints into a channel. Many players go to different clubs and bomb for numerous reasons and Owen was no different although with him, his injury problems a clear issue and one which begs the question why did they take the gamble on him.

On a positive not the mighty Fulham off and running at last. Sounds like a corker of a game and looking forward to seeing them on MOTD2. Apparently going forward we were devastating. Going the other way not so good and that still remains my biggest worry about whether we can eek points out and be hard to score against. Mawson and Ream close to fitness will help
 
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There are some things you should never reveal , Think this is one.
You do have to question the managers for picking him if he’s hiding.
The fans can usually tell their not stupid!.
That’s were I’m stuck, even Jake Humphries joked he could see millions of reasons why he kept playing.
Some of the responsibility has to sit with Owen, we don’t know what he was saying while collecting half a million a week.
 
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If Owen knew this like he said then disgraceful he kept his wage demands So high

A lower wage with a goal bonus

He did for his Man Utd and Stoke contracts - when he went to Newcastle he hadn’t had the ACL injury which pretty much finished him off
 

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That’s were I’m stuck, even Jake Humphries joked he could see millions of reasons why he kept playing.
Some of the responsibility has to sit with Owen, we don’t know what he was saying while collecting half a million a week.

Where do you draw that line. The club buys the player and agrees the fee and wages and the player passes a medical. The manager picks the player but that player now plays a different way as he's trying to protect himself to play regularly and so doesn't perform as the fans want. Is that hiding or actually trying to do the best for himself and the team. Of all the players, I wouldn't think of Owen as someone that would hide (plenty from a host of clubs including my own) and he strikes me as someone that would get more and more frustrated as he couldn't perform as he wanted. That's why he went to several chairmen to resign
 
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Where do you draw that line. The club buys the player and agrees the fee and wages and the player passes a medical. The manager picks the player but that player now plays a different way as he's trying to protect himself to play regularly and so doesn't perform as the fans want. Is that hiding or actually trying to do the best for himself and the team. Of all the players, I wouldn't think of Owen as someone that would hide (plenty from a host of clubs including my own) and he strikes me as someone that would get more and more frustrated as he couldn't perform as he wanted. That's why he went to several chairmen to resign
You stated you watched the video, Owen himself said he hid on the pitch by taking up positions he knew his team mates wouldn’t pass to him.
That’s a line being drawn right there!
 

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You stated you watched the video, Owen himself said he hid on the pitch by taking up positions he knew his team mates wouldn’t pass to him.
That’s a line being drawn right there!

Because he feared making those runs and being out for lengthy periods. There was a context. I've seen players do what Owen did with no such injury worries. That's frustrating. It's also part of why he went to chairmen to offer to resign. He knew he wasn't able to do it anymore
 
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Because he feared making those runs and being out for lengthy periods. There was a context. I've seen players do what Owen did with no such injury worries. That's frustrating. It's also part of why he went to chairmen to offer to resign. He knew he wasn't able to do it anymore

He offered to resign at Stoke, he wasn’t there for the last 6-7 years he said he had those mental issues.

Owen was fully fit at Newcastle when he said he couldn’t play in a relegation game because he had a feeling he might get injured!
That’s not showing the fans you care, he was on over 100k a week.

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Jorginho gave a SarriBall masterclass yesterday:

Total touches - 186
Most touches in a League game since 03/04
Completed passes - 158
A pass every 34.18 seconds

Possession at St. James' Park:
Jorginho - 15%
Newcastle United - 18%
 
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