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Well, I've been on the 'phone to the family irons [who were at the match] and they've convinced me there wasn't a single positive either side can be taking from yesterdays match... Still a lot of work required, from both sides, before a smile of hope can be raised by either set of fans...


you must know some real negative nancys lol all the irons I know from the game yesterday are all positive and full of praise for the side
 

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Well, they've been following them week in week out for well over fifty years so I suspect they've got a whole lot more to relate to than some jonny come latelys...

really? considering the fans I knew who went yesterday are all in their mid to late 50s.. so hardly jonny come latelys

also the west ham forums this morning arent in meltdown like the last couple weeks.. full of positive vibes and lots of hope
 

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really? considering the fans I knew who went yesterday are all in their mid to late 50s.. so hardly jonny come latelys

also the west ham forums this morning arent in meltdown like the last couple weeks.. full of positive vibes and lots of hope

But without digressing, you played Arsenal who were also not only woeful at the back but also had zero points at the start, hardly a milestone, and if you can’t score more than 1 goal against that pishpoor defence, your in for a rough ride going forward.

Based on current performances, 40 points at best for me.
 

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But without digressing, you played Arsenal who were also not only woeful at the back but also had zero points at the start, hardly a milestone, and if you can’t score more than 1 goal against that pishpoor defence, your in for a rough ride going forward.

Based on current performances, 40 points at best for me.

40 points is normally safe so still not awful. this season is transition season

still say 52

anyways we scored 2 yesterday did we not? I heard the arnie second goal was wrongly offside?
 

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Sparky at his hilarious best...

would be shame to see southampton go.. but they employed the idiot so I have to back them for the drop. the most unlikeable manager in the league.

after jose ofc

It's a regular thing and he is flat out embarrassing. I like Southampton as a club but whilst Hughes is there I'm happy to see him on the losing side every week.

Silva will do or say the wrong thing at some point this season but yesterday he came out straight away and said Richarlison was wrong. Not hard to do. Hughes was in the same situation, clear decision, and still blamed the ref.
 

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It's a regular thing and he is flat out embarrassing. I like Southampton as a club but whilst Hughes is there I'm happy to see him on the losing side every week.

Silva will do or say the wrong thing at some point this season but yesterday he came out straight away and said Richarlison was wrong. Not hard to do. Hughes was in the same situation, clear decision, and still blamed the ref.

cant stand hughes with a passion. it was a shame southampton didnt go down last season just so that hughes could be the first manager to take down 2 teams in 1 season lol
 

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you must know some real negative nancys lol all the irons I know from the game yesterday are all positive and full of praise for the side

I greatly respect our away support, but they are not normal...

It looks to me like we have some areas where we can be optimistic, and plenty where we are a bit pants. Coupled with a really nasty run of fixtures means that it's a delicate time and the season is as likely to go badly as it is well.

For me, the most worrying thing about the start of the season is the form of Wolves, Brighton and Bournemouth. Having lots of terrible teams at the bottom is the best way to stay up...
 

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I greatly respect our away support, but they are not normal...

It looks to me like we have some areas where we can be optimistic, and plenty where we are a bit pants. Coupled with a really nasty run of fixtures means that it's a delicate time and the season is as likely to go badly as it is well.

For me, the most worrying thing about the start of the season is the form of Wolves, Brighton and Bournemouth. Having lots of terrible teams at the bottom is the best way to stay up...

Cardiff , huddersfield for sure will help to have around

brighton dont look too good but wolves doing fantastic and bouremouth clearly a decent premier league club now

newcastle could have a rough season
 
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everton may be on the up but richarlson is such a loss to the way they play IMO ofc. but he has been so key..
Mate, I admire your passion and firmly believe West Ham will have a decent season and have stated it’s too early to make judgements, but that’s exactly what you’ve done to Everton.
Richarlison has made a good start, that’s it, he played 2 games and 40 minutes and you’re making out he’s the key, sorry, even Silva says the team have a lot to learn.
As for the Red card, 100% a red, I’d be going mad if it was the other way round.
 

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Mate, I admire your passion and firmly believe West Ham will have a decent season and have stated it’s too early to make judgements, but that’s exactly what you’ve done to Everton.
Richarlison has made a good start, that’s it, he played 2 games and 40 minutes and you’re making out he’s the key, sorry, even Silva says the team have a lot to learn.
As for the Red card, 100% a red, I’d be going mad if it was the other way round.

Just seen him as key so far

I think by the time we play you we will be in a better place as a team having 2 games in the mean time to gel a bit

I predicted a nicely contested 2-2 draw
 
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Just seen him as key so far

I think by the time we play you we will be in a better place as a team having 2 games in the mean time to gel a bit

I predicted a nicely contested 2-2 draw
And West Ham have lost 3 games so far ;)
He hasn’t been key, the whole Club has been given a lift, Theo and Gylfi are looking like different players, plus we’ve got Mina, Zouma, Digne, Bernard and Gomes to come in with 2 games at home before we play you.
Being as blinkered as you, I could say I expect us to beat you easily.
You’re not the only Club whose fortunes could change.
Far too early to make predictions, otherwise those posting about West Ham and relegation you have to at least accept..........they could be right.
 

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And West Ham have lost 3 games so far ;)
He hasn’t been key, the whole Club has been given a lift, Theo and Gylfi are looking like different players, plus we’ve got Mina, Zouma, Digne, Bernard and Gomes to come in with 2 games at home before we play you.
Being as blinkered as you, I could say I expect us to beat you easily.
You’re not the only Club whose fortunes could change.
Far too early to make predictions, otherwise those posting about West Ham and relegation you have to at least accept..........they could be right.

the main factor in west ham not going down is the fact there are 3 worse teams (yes the table right now doesnt reflect that) but Cardiff, Hudderfield, Southampton are going to have real slogs all season. Burnley I think are going to feel the affects of their european games... they will be dragged down the table. Newcastle aswell in the mix

we could end up in the battle but I just dont see it with the signings we have made

we have got out of it with the dross we had last season.. we improved the squad so I can only see us not struggling as much
 

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For me, the most worrying thing about the start of the season is the form of Wolves, Brighton and Bournemouth. Having lots of terrible teams at the bottom is the best way to stay up...


And that probably sums up my cousins thoughts...
To be optimistic you needn't be looking to rely on poor form from others...
Only good form from yourself to ensure progress forward...
 
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the main factor in west ham not going down is the fact there are 3 worse teams (yes the table right now doesnt reflect that) but Cardiff, Hudderfield, Southampton are going to have real slogs all season. Burnley I think are going to feel the affects of their european games... they will be dragged down the table. Newcastle aswell in the mix

we could end up in the battle but I just dont see it with the signings we have made

we have got out of it with the dross we had last season.. we improved the squad so I can only see us not struggling as much
You’re preaching to the converted mate, but missing my point, you’re telling others not to judge West Ham as it’s too early, but you’re judging others against the same criteria.
Bad, and good, starts to the season can set the tone for a quite a few months.
Last season they let Koeman spend a fortune with us and after 6 games had 4 points, nobody outside of Everton actually cared that 5 of those games were against teams who were (and did) likely to be battling out for the PL and top 6. We were bottom and no amount of supporters faith at that time was helping the players.
 

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For those writing off Wolves, you may be in for a shock. They were a class above the rest of the Championship last season. Some big, strong players in that team. They play at speed and a fair bit of skill. They've spent a fortune during the summer, bringing in some very good players.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made 10th-12th.
 
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