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I think you know that I meant on the playing/performance side of things!
Ozil as we all know and as we have all seen can be lazy, Jack Wiltshire carried that trait from North London to East London switching off allowing his marker to get behind him and past him to put in an unchallenged cross leading to the equaliser.
But overall Arsenal did look at face value to work a little harder than I’d seen the weeks before and they got back in numbers when needed which Ozil isn’t known for, so they looked more balanced without him imo.
His wages are immaterial, that was simply blackmail at a crucial time when Arsenal was under the microscope with players out of contract being able to leave on a free or do as Ozil did, use that to leverage a better deal, when in truth they’d have been better letting him go imo.
Even if he was to be loaned out or sold, I can see Arsenal having to pay a percentage of those ridiculous wages as part of the dal, as he’s nowhere near worth that much.
There’s obviously a situation between him and the new manager, and with a ground out result, I can’t see him figuring in the next game either, other than a bench warmer.
Yes it was 3 points, but it was an uphill struggle against an even poorer WH, who were unlucky at times and didn’t get the breaks.
Watching the likes of Wolves, Brighton and some others that you’d expect when looking at fixtures for Arsenal to beat them home & away, I can’t see Arsenal or WH getting anything from those games, unless they both miraculously click!!
PJ87
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so lets get some actual facts out rather than speculation .. the fixture list start was tough.. the bournemouth game no excuses was a missed op.. but the other 2 you expect 0 points from.
now onto the next lot of fixtures
before the season starts repeating itself (december 29th) we have the following fixtures
Sept
Wolves home
everton away
Chelsea Home
Man united home
See 5 points going into october. not great but some teams here for the taking. Dont fear them as much after yesterday which is the mood amongst most fans who went to the game.
Oct
brighton away
spurs home
Leciester away
Add another 4 points here.. taking us to the mighty height of 9 points.
November
Burnley home
Huddersfield away
City home
6 points from this lot taking up to 15 points
December is when we start to make a real run of things
Newcastle away
cardiff home
palace home
Fulham away
Watford home
southampton away
13-14 points from this lot.. taking us up to 28 points at the half way stage.. 40 points is normally safe so wont be in much bother..
our second half of the season is much friendly than the first half start
we start with
burnley away
brighton home
arsenal home
bouremouth away
wolves away
liverpool home
palace away
fulham home
citeh away
the fixture list much kinder from december onwards.. december as posted I can actually see us picking up in excess of 15 points .. and march we have 3 home games (everton, huddersfield, newcastle) and 1 away game (cardiff) again can see 9-10 points here mayb
the team will have gelled by then
so again no need to panic and also no "I was right" rubbish about the position at xmas.. because as can be seen from the games and the potential to go on little run of points here and there throughout the season.. there is a LONG long way to go
going through the remaining fixtures I predict us to get around the 52 points mark. well safe
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Eh ? I thought you wanted to talk about facts and not speculation yet your whole post is nothing but speculation in regards what points you “think†you will get but there is only one fact at the moment and that’s bottom of the table and 0 points - I suspect you speculated that to be slightly different
I’m sure that you believed that the signings made which you hyped up would have West Ham challenging up to the 6-8th spot ? Now it’s mid table “maybeâ€
Nah sorry - because of the level of players that have been bought - still see West Ham battling with Huddersfield, Brighton , Cardiff , Southampton to avoid relegation 3/1 on at the moment
PJ87
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see now I am willing to put money where my month is
I bet £20 to H4H that west ham will finish more than 10 points clear of the team that goes down in 18th place
I said we will be top 10 from the start.. the new signings are showing signs of gelling. we played well yesterday. were unlucky to not get 3 points let alone a draw . wolves next week will be tough but go into the game in a better place..
but like I said west ham will finish 10 clear points off 18th Place.. I am willing to be held to this bet of £20 to H4H (the charity everyone supports on this forum.. normally I would bet to the bobby moore fund)
care to put your money where your month (or fingers) are?
😳 From someone who watched the whole match, my ‘speculation’ is that I can’t see on that performance and what I’ve seen of those teams your playing in October that you’ll get any more than 2 points in September, Zero points on October and 2 at best in November.
Your kidding yourself if you believe you’ll get 4 wins from 6 in December.
So from your speculative 15 points, and what I’ve actually watched, I see only 4 points and a very troubled WH going into December.
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Yep I’ll take that bet ðŸ‘
PJ87
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like I said fish I stand by my point prediction
we are starting to gel.. did you watch the game? I know arsenal and west ham fans at the game and reports from both were that west ham should have least got a point if not won.. and reports from the media say west ham unlucky to get not get a point
we had diop making his debut.. anderson starting to look good and fredericks played well.. so 3 of the new signings there.. 2 bedding in nicely.. starting to reep the rewards of them .. diop once he gets up to speed partnered with someone for a few games and we will start to shape up
sanchez had a good game aswell.. a player villa fans dubbed the "worst ever premier league player" in their team that went down (who looked rubbish) he was solid and shored us up a bit in the middle yesterday
better finishing in the first half yest would have seen us in at 3-1 at half time. things will gel.. I see 4-5 points by october .. but if it does happen the fixtures are getting kinder
if MP firmly believes mid table by xmas I dont doubt him. very good manager knows his stuff
PJ87
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excellent. Fish can be the witness as he is on the thread at this time aswell (he also runs events for h4h does he not? sorry I havent done a forum event so I dont know)
but come may one way or another h4h will get some money
:rofl: You do realise that the teams you play in the second half of the season are the same ones you played in the first half of the season :rofl:
I have sympathy for West Ham and their fixture list. It is similar to Everton last year. The problem is that the momentum is all the wrong way, the crowd get edgy, the pressure builds, confidence dips. By the time you play the weaker teams the players and team are not where they should be in terms of their mental state.
It is important that the fans and players stay strong so that you can face the weaker teams without the baggage of a losing streak weighing them down. It looks simple when written down, harder in reality.
It is important that the fans and players stay strong so that you can face the weaker teams without the baggage of a losing streak weighing them down. It looks simple when written down, harder in reality.
PJ87
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look at the order we play them....... smart arse
PJ87
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see now I truly believe we will become a decent side under MP. party down to just how cheap our board is. They HATE sacking a manager. simply because it costs money to sack a manager. the fans hated sam and they didnt really like him yet let him see out his contract. they sacked bilic only after 2 seasons of dross.. they let moyes only have a small deal so they didnt have to pay him off
so now fast forward we have MP
normal football boards would get itchy trigger fingers and sack a manager very soon into a bad run.. where as the dildo brothers will back them to get out of it just because they cant afford to pay them off.. would cost a lot for MP aswell
so it does us a favour because once the team gel under him we will do well
he will have a slow season this year... mid table.. 52 points ish my predition
next year top half
slowly building to by end of his deal pushing for top 8
You need to read my posts fully, unlike you, yes I watched the whole match so I am not relying on third party reports or edited highlights on MOTD.
You only looked good in parts because Arsenal were so poor, especially at the back still, but you were even worse at the back and if Arsenal had been more clinical, you’d have lost by more.
The third goal was testament to how disjointed your defence is, Welbeck standing in the box on his own, gets the ball and is able to turn around unchallenged and put it in the net like it was a penalty, it was shocking!
I don’t think you’ve seen Wolves, Brighton and others play this season fully and are expecting, just because they’ve come up, to take 3 points off them in your predictions, both those teams are going to take points off the top 4/6 contenders, so based on that, their looking at you for a comfortable 3 points home & away.
I think you’ve got problems and I genuinely don’t think your manager is someone who can graft you up from the bottom.
I accept your optimism, but I, unlike you, watched all the match and didn’t see anything that will keep you out of a relegation scrap, or at best sniffing around 15th at best.
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PJ87
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the defence is disjointed for sure but that will improve with time.. I never realised MP was such a tinker man
in the defence alone he has made a change or 2 every game
first back 4
fredericks Balbuena Ogbonna Masuaku
second back 4
Zabeletta Balbuena Ogbonna Masuaku
this back 4
fredericks Balbuena Diop Masuaku
thats some tinkering
now sanchez in the middle should start helping once they all get on the same page
going forward there is no problem.. we look decent
but rightly its at the back
we spent 30+ million on defenders (including keeper) yet we still cant get the basics
need to sort it out for sure
Bazz
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Very happy with our performance yesterday, think it's refreshing to see a team actually have a go at one of the big boys and not just parking the bus like some clubs do. Think we deserved our point.
Onto West Ham next week, full of confidence, hopefully we can get our first win.
Onto West Ham next week, full of confidence, hopefully we can get our first win.
Wow! Using YOUR logic you'll pick up more points in Jan/Feb than in Aug/Sept, but using YOUR logic you'll pick up less in March/Apr.... clever bum.
I don't think you're relegation fodder but I can't see 52 points, which would have got you up to 8th in the last 2 seasons.
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According to the sunday times it seems that Roman is bored with chelsea and there up for sale with a £2 billion bid being turned down. Winder where tash gets his inside info from.
? Bidding war for chelsea.
? Bidding war for chelsea.
PJ87
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So based on that statement, where do your predicted 5 points come from out of this list.
Sept
Wolves home
everton away
Chelsea Home
Man united home
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