And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Tashyboy]

This one mate

“The second reaction is because I am in the movie I could ask for some royalties," Mourinho said. "But if they send me one of the shirts they had in the tunnel when we played there, the shirts that were saying ‘We did it on derby day’. If they send me one of these shirts, I give up about the royalties.”

Oh ah I read that, think that was his little dig for when they came back to win from being two down. I wasn't to bothered about the " we did it on derby day" t shirt. I bought the " we won it at the swamp" t shirt 😁

 

[Tashyboy]

Not for me.

Why would that be PB

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why would that be PB

Allardyce :whoo:

 

[Tashyboy]

Allardyce :whoo:

Dear Santa, for Xmas please make Tashyboy very happy and give fat Sam Maureen's job 😂😂😂😂😂

 

[Deleted member 15344]

His philosophy is built around 4231

So changed from the 4-3-3 that gave him his best success - the day Man Utd has two sitting defensive mids against a team which will be fighting against relegation is a sad day.

The manager has spent £60 mil on two CB’s that needs two DM in front of them ? And both that look like they couldn’t pass water , - the worry is that there is two more defensive mids to come in - who is going to be the creator in the middle of the park ? Pogba - can’t rely on him in the Prem - it’s a role perfect for Mata.

It seems it’s a set up just for stopping the goals going in but even then with the CB’s and in fact the back line even that’s going to be a struggle. A lot of money been spent and it’s hard to see the real quality that’s been bought

Must be demoralising at the moment watching that and the way the manager is acting

 

[Papas1982]

So changed from the 4-3-3 that gave him his best success - the day Man Utd has two sitting defensive mids against a team which will be fighting against relegation is a sad day.

The manager has spent £60 mil on two CB’s that needs two DM in front of them ? And both that look like they couldn’t pass water , - the worry is that there is two more defensive mids to come in - who is going to be the creator in the middle of the park ? Pogba - can’t rely on him in the Prem - it’s a role perfect for Mata.

It seems it’s a set up just for stopping the goals going in but even then with the CB’s and in fact the back line even that’s going to be a struggle. A lot of money been spent and it’s hard to see the real quality that’s been bought

Must be demoralising at the moment watching that and the way the manager is acting

£30m doesn’t buy a good cb nowadays. I think Bailly has potential, nit sure who I’d pair him with.

Pogba started well, but as the team capitulated so did his feeedom. I think Pogba is Blatantly good enough for the prem. Just not in a Mourinho team. That squad is full of attacking talent and he’s strangled the life out of it. Fergie would of had them purring, he barely gets em into second gear.

 

[Tashyboy]

£30m doesn’t buy a good cb nowadays. I think Bailly has potential, nit sure who I’d pair him with.

Pogba started well, but as the team capitulated so did his feeedom. I think Pogba is Blatantly good enough for the prem. Just not in a Mourinho team. That squad is full of attacking talent and he’s strangled the life out of it. Fergie would of had them purring, he barely gets em into second gear.

Was talking to a pal at the City game today, we were on about the one player who we would have in City's team from Utd . We both said Pogba. Not seen his performance today, but I did in the World Cup and he is class. So once more, why is Pogba not doin it. Think we all know the answer.

 

[Papas1982]

Was talking to a pal at the City game today, we were on about the one player who we would have in City's team from Utd . We both said Pogba. Not seen his performance today, but I did in the World Cup and he is class. So once more, why is Pogba not doin it. Think we all know the answer.

He reminds me of the old Yaya. He’s perfect for the prem. Him in your team would be scary imo. Not sure Zidane would do much better at Utd. But would be interested to see, if only to be able to guess at whether he or Ronaldo was more to do with all the CL success.

 

[Hobbit]

Brighton were superb today. They chased everything, hunted in pairs and pressured Utd right on heir own 18 yd line. And Utd let them dictate the pace of the game.

Who in the Utd team could put their foot on the ball, change the pace of the game and bring players into the game? No one. Lingard came deep, after he came on, and did at times inject something into the team. But that was at 90 miles an hour, and wasn't really bringing in a touch of calmness to their play. Poor Lukaku looked isolated far too often. Young had a decent game, love him or like him he knows what he's doing - probably Utd's best player.

Its a poor Utd team, a bit akin to Arsenal of recent seasons. Who in the current Utd team would even make the bench 10 years ago?

Jose has lost another dressing room, as he did at Chelsea. He's shredded class players, and turned them into players who won't play for him.

 

[Tashyboy]

Just seen Mark Noble tracking back for the first Spurs goal. #carthorse. How the Eck does he get a game.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Just seen Mark Noble tracking back for the first Spurs goal. #carthorse. How the Eck does he get a game.

He must be good mate if he plays for West Ham and you saw him tracking back in the Spurs v Fulham game. :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Was talking to a pal at the City game today, we were on about the one player who we would have in City's team from Utd . We both said Pogba. Not seen his performance today, but I did in the World Cup and he is class. So once more, why is Pogba not doin it. Think we all know the answer.

You do realise Pep has spent double at City of what Jose has spent at Utd and Jose gets stick for finishing 2nd, also City, Liv, Chelsea and Everton have spent more than Utd in the last 4 transfer windows.

 

[PJ87]

He must be good mate if he plays for West Ham and you saw him tracking back in the Spurs v Fulham game. :rofl:

No he’s right ., he’s that slow and bloody useless he is still making his way back from Liverpool so was just about going through the north London Area at the time

 

[Orikoru]

If Vardy’s is a red card then Pickfords is definitely a red card - Vardy got the ball clean and then went through to the man , foot wasn’t high. Pickfords foot was high - got the Ball but then went through high on the man and with enough force to lean stud marks on someone’s back.

That’s the biggest problem with the refs - inconsistent - looking at it Pickfords is more of a red card than Vardy’s

No, complete rubbish. Vardy dived in aggressively, brought his second foot through as well, and ended up studding the player at knee height when the ball was on the ground. Pickford simply made a high clearance and his kicking boot inadvertently catches Ings on the way down. To even compare the two is borderline trolling. Maybe Pickford could have been booked but never a red.

 

[Orikoru]

Decent article on West Ham: https://www.football365.com/news/why-have-west-ham-still-not-solved-their-midfield-problem

Maybe PaulJames shouldn't read it, might be telling you things you already know. Still not sure why Obiang isn't getting a game.

 

[Junior]

Man U summation today - disjointed, and that team doesnt seem to have an identity.

Early days, obviously and they'll get better but too much negative "noise" around the club, most of that brought on by Jose.

I know I've given Man U stick for being given preferential treatment by refs, in the main, but they suffer more than anyone else when things are going bad. Not sure if Mourinho can cope with that, as some of the press will try and expose any cracks between board/manager/players/fans. He doesnt look as if he has many friends in any of the other three camps at the moment.

Not for me.

I get what he is trying. If we controlled the ball and the game, i'd be a lot more confident into his tactics. I know that its early but we have been out played by Leicester and Brighton in our first two games.

Players are still in the wrong position, we're poor on the ball, we need the right combination at centre back and the players seem to be dis-engaged and almost confused. Players in good teams know where each other are on the park without even looking up, I get the feeling we don't.

I have faith as i think the squad is strong, but its waining fast.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No, complete rubbish. Vardy dived in aggressively, brought his second foot through as well, and ended up studding the player at knee height when the ball was on the ground. Pickford simply made a high clearance and his kicking boot inadvertently catches Ings on the way down. To even compare the two is borderline trolling. Maybe Pickford could have been booked but never a red.

First thing - quit the accusations of trolling ,secondly it was an opinion based on what I saw and what the result was - Pickfords foot was high and then went into Ings imo it was dangerous and out of control and ended up causing clear visible injury to Ings - so imo by the letter of the law he shld of been a red card but just an opinion that I would expect someone to not accuse me of trolling and just show a touch of bit of politeness which seems lacking in younger people these days

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Remember Mane last season, jumping high with feet against the keeper and being sent off?
I think keepers get the better end of both sticks, the giver and reciever.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I get what he is trying. If we controlled the ball and the game, i'd be a lot more confident into his tactics. I know that its early but we have been out played by Leicester and Brighton in our first two games.

Players are still in the wrong position, we're poor on the ball, we need the right combination at centre back and the players seem to be dis-engaged and almost confused. Players in good teams know where each other are on the park without even looking up, I get the feeling we don't.

I have faith as i think the squad is strong, but its waining fast.

Utd have a strong squad with world class players. The manager is poison though. He has been for years but people accept him as long as he delivers trophies. As soon as the trophies dry up or he gets bored it gets nasty and he is off. Change the manager and you will be right again in no time.

Utd are in a position right now where Arsenal where for the last 5 years. Every other fan in the country wants you to keep your manager. That tells you everything.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

the giver and reciever.

Fnarr.

My 2p - Vardy - clear red card, the way he went into that challenge he wanted to leave a bit on the player. Pickford - red card, not for intent but for being reckless and endangering the opponent.

As for Man Utd - whether Jose is playing mind games or trying to protect his players or has lost the plot I really dont know - but as Junior said a couple of posts ago, they've been outplayed by Leicester and Brighton and surely that cant continue. Whether that comes from the players or from Jose I'm unsure, but there is definitely a lack of leadership somewhere.