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I thought Vardy followed through unnecessarily and that could have been a leg breaker. Pickford was there first, hit it cleanly and didn't look like he was looking for Ings. Ings really should have pulled out. He wasn't going to get there first and he should have noticed and side stepped Pickford. He could see that Pickford was there, was going to kick the ball at height. It's like riding a tackle, you have to use some nous.

Wasn't it great to see us attack with pace again? We need tightening at the back but neither Zouma or Mina have played yet so they will help.
Trying not to get too carried away as it’s such early days, but already have a better feeling about this season in regards effort and style of football than last season.
Why should Ings pull out? Surely him going for it could of forced Pickford in to an error and that’s my point, if 2 players are genuinely trying for the ball, accidents and clashes will happen, Jags certainly got the ball first and Puel didn’t think Vardy deserved a red either.
Different ref on a different day :confused:
 

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Just seen MOTD re-run...
How does Kennedy not get sent off for swinging a kick at a Cardiff player right under the nose of the ref..?
 

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One for Chelsea fans. I see Barkley started for Chelsea yesterday, saw MotD. How did he play? Looked okay from the highlights but they were highlights.

He played well and is growing in confidence with more & game time. He put a decent shift in, some nice threaded balls, good vision and got back with first tackles when needed, I can see him figuring more and more as Sarri obviously likes what he sees in training and in the matches he starts in.
 

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Trying not to get too carried away as it’s such early days, but already have a better feeling about this season in regards effort and style of football than last season.
Why should Ings pull out? Surely him going for it could of forced Pickford in to an error and that’s my point, if 2 players are genuinely trying for the ball, accidents and clashes will happen, Jags certainly got the ball first and Puel didn’t think Vardy deserved a red either.
Different ref on a different day :confused:

Okay, I saw it as a 60-40, not a 50-50. If you are going in for a 60-40 with a high bouncing ball and you are the 40 then you are always going to come off second best. You can run across the keeper or to the side of the keeper to put him under pressure but if you run straight at him then you are going to get clattered. You need to have a bit of self preservation if you want to keep healthy.
 

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Well, [for me] Pickford, as a fully paid up member of the Green Jersey Union, got away with one yesterday...
As would 99.9% of other members of the same union would in similar circumstances...
Not sure an outfield player would be cut the same amount of slack...
Sort of proven with dismissals of Jagielka and Vardy...
 
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If Vardy’s is a red card then Pickfords is definitely a red card - Vardy got the ball clean and then went through to the man , foot wasn’t high. Pickfords foot was high - got the Ball but then went through high on the man and with enough force to lean stud marks on someone’s back.

That’s the biggest problem with the refs - inconsistent - looking at it Pickfords is more of a red card than Vardy’s
 

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If Vardy’s is a red card then Pickfords is definitely a red card - Vardy got the ball clean and then went through to the man , foot wasn’t high. Pickfords foot was high - got the Ball but then went through high on the man and with enough force to lean stud marks on someone’s back.

That’s the biggest problem with the refs - inconsistent - looking at it Pickfords is more of a red card than Vardy’s

Nar, other way round for me.

Vardy knew what he was doing. He easily had enough time to make the ball but didnt have to follow through so aggressively, but like a 1980's hardman midfielder his eyes lit up as a "I can get the ball and the man here". 30 years ago, wouldnt have even been a yellow, deffo red now and deservedly so. Pickfords is and isnt, dependent upon the angles you see it, some look like he was just clearing it some look worse based on the follow through. What makes it look worse is the stud marks and ripped shirt.
 
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Well, [for me] Pickford, as a fully paid up member of the Green Jersey Union, got away with one yesterday...
As would 99.9% of other members of the same union would in similar circumstances...
Not sure an outfield player would be cut the same amount of slack...
Sort of proven with dismissals of Jagielka and Vardy...
I firmly believe Pickfords intent is to clear the ball, is it any different to a keeper clearing out a forward when going for a cross in the 6yd box etc.
 

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Games gone mad, ref are so inconsistent it's impossible to know what is an isn't accepted. You could say both Pickford and Vardy's tackles were out of control, imho both players went and got the ball if your going to throw cards about if a player is caught after the tackle you might as well ban tackling.
 

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If Vardy’s is a red card then Pickfords is definitely a red card - Vardy got the ball clean and then went through to the man , foot wasn’t high. Pickfords foot was high - got the Ball but then went through high on the man and with enough force to lean stud marks on someone’s back.

That’s the biggest problem with the refs - inconsistent - looking at it Pickfords is more of a red card than Vardy’s

He's caught Doherty on his knee, he knew exactly what he's doing. If that was one of your players you'd be fuming.
 
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And I don't disagree... Just feel that the 'duty of care' considerations used with outfield players should also apply to those that lurk between the posts...
Absolutely, the issue is the blurred lines, saw no issue with Pickfords clearance when I saw it at speed, then you see it slowed down and pictures from different angles or one still with his foot in Ings back etc.
I normally find Ian Wright to be a decent pundit and was surprised he thought it was a red.
No doubt officials will see these programmes debates etc and next time who knows what the decision is.
Game has certainly gone soft.
 
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Ashley Young really is the master of winning the free kick , he seems to be going down before anyone is near him.

Man Utd fans must be tearing their hair out watching this , seeing Pogba control games for France and then get outmuscled in the Prem and look lost - even more so when the sub coming on is Fellani
 
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