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So - is he unfairly picked on - yes imo

Is it because of his skin colour and background- I don’t think so

I don’t see the unfair criticism of Sterling as racial motivated but for me some of the nonsense spouted about him prob comes from a bit a jealousy and also a lack of understanding about him and the way he plays. It’s typical of the English media and also fans to try and crucify one of their own and the treatment of Sterling is a perfect example of that

I think he is heavily criticised. As all Yong English players inevitably are once they are deemed to under preform. But the fact that kick it out are trying to get some sort of free press of the back of it, is even worse imo.
 

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So - is he unfairly picked on - yes imo

Is it because of his skin colour and background- I don’t think so

I don’t see the unfair criticism of Sterling as racial motivated but for me some of the nonsense spouted about him prob comes from a bit a jealousy and also a lack of understanding about him and the way he plays. It’s typical of the English media and also fans to try and crucify one of their own and the treatment of Sterling is a perfect example of that
When you're paid the money he is you expect a certain standard, and sadly too often his end product doesn't match the standard of his earnings or fee.
His colour is irrelevant, but as usual certain elements on both sides of the coin see that as the reason.
 

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I think he is heavily criticised. As all Yong English players inevitably are once they are deemed to under preform. But the fact that kick it out are trying to get some sort of free press of the back of it, is even worse imo.

Indeed. In my opinion, Sterling has under performed, especially on the international stage, and even at club level, seems to need four-five chances to convert. That said, I think the Kick It Out campaign are using him to get some coverage out of it. I hope this doesn't blow up into something it isn't and Sterling can be left to simply play
 

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So - is he unfairly picked on - yes imo

Is it because of his skin colour and background- I don’t think so

I don’t see the unfair criticism of Sterling as racial motivated but for me some of the nonsense spouted about him prob comes from a bit a jealousy and also a lack of understanding about him and the way he plays. It’s typical of the English media and also fans to try and crucify one of their own and the treatment of Sterling is a perfect example of that
Given that a lot of it comes from The Scum and the Daily Fail, I wouldn't rule out racism completely. But then other black players don't seem to get it.

This quote from the article: "the red-top sniping at him does smack of resentment towards a young, black man from humble roots, as if he's somehow not entitled to enjoy the fruits of his hard work, talent and dedication." - I think there is actually a ring of truth in that. I can't think of any other reason why they would, for example, criticism him for buying his mother a new house (which they did).
 

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Indeed. In my opinion, Sterling has under performed, especially on the international stage, and even at club level, seems to need four-five chances to convert. That said, I think the Kick It Out campaign are using him to get some coverage out of it. I hope this doesn't blow up into something it isn't and Sterling can be left to simply play

Ave said this before Homer and al say it again. He has always needed 4 or five chances. But like on Sunday he scored an excellent goal and nearly got another that would of been better. He is capable of games like that. He gets stick for missing but here's a thought. He is in the team in front of others/strikers who are not as good. He was the only player in England's team that ran past players. Croatia were pooing bricks, because he was the only player that had pace. Yet he had a bad game? I don't get it. England are up to 4th or 6th ( ave forgot ) in the world rankings. Yet we were rubbish? Who were Englands best players. Keeper and defence. Kane got six goals, yet did he have a good World Cup.
its alright bringing it up now, but it should of been addressed at the time.
 
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Big blow for City - KDB looks like goinf to be out for a while with a knee injury , hopefully for him it’s nothing too serious. I know City have a big squad and players to come in but missing the best Midfielder in Football is going to affect the team
 

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QUOTE=Liverpoolphil;1878604]Big blow for City - KDB looks like goinf to be out for a while with a knee injury , hopefully for him it’s nothing too serious. I know City have a big squad and players to come in but missing the best Midfielder in Football is going to affect the team[/QUOTE]

I said the same thing to my lad but he has been going on some of the city sites and there saying although he's the best, with both Silvas, Gundoghan, Foden the Stockport iniesta, Mahrez, Delph there's more than enough cover. Time will tell.
 

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QUOTE=Liverpoolphil;1878604]Big blow for City - KDB looks like goinf to be out for a while with a knee injury , hopefully for him it’s nothing too serious. I know City have a big squad and players to come in but missing the best Midfielder in Football is going to affect the team

I said the same thing to my lad but he has been going on some of the city sites and there saying although he's the best, with both Silvas, Gundoghan, Foden the Stockport iniesta, Mahrez, Delph there's more than enough cover. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]

You reckon Foden will get a decent chance this year? Looks like he could be a pretty special player from what I've seen
 

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I said the same thing to my lad but he has been going on some of the city sites and there saying although he's the best, with both Silvas, Gundoghan, Foden the Stockport iniesta, Mahrez, Delph there's more than enough cover. Time will tell.

You reckon Foden will get a decent chance this year? Looks like he could be a pretty special player from what I've seen[/QUOTE]

I hope so NWJ, he is class for a kid, I know I said he should of gone to the World Cup, but he is so different to most English midfielders. Michael Owen did it and I thought Foden could of. The problem is he is so similar to both Bernado and David silva. So it's hard to see how he is gonna get game time apart from league and FA cups. He reminds me of David Silva when he first came to City, his first season was nothing special, he was so lightweight. Foden last year looked like Jimmy Grimble in weight and stature. If he does get a chance and takes it, Pep will keep him in.
PS, another City young un is Brahim Diaz, Spanish youngster I believe. He is as good as Foden but is a forward. Can you see him getting in front of Aguero and Jesus.
 

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I hope so NWJ, he is class for a kid, I know I said he should of gone to the World Cup, but he is so different to most English midfielders. Michael Owen did it and I thought Foden could of. The problem is he is so similar to both Bernado and David silva. So it's hard to see how he is gonna get game time apart from league and FA cups. He reminds me of David Silva when he first came to City, his first season was nothing special, he was so lightweight. Foden last year looked like Jimmy Grimble in weight and stature. If he does get a chance and takes it, Pep will keep him in.
PS, another City young un is Brahim Diaz, Spanish youngster I believe. He is as good as Foden but is a forward. Can you see him getting in front of Aguero and Jesus.

Thats the problem all youngsters have at top clubs. Not seen much of Diaz, but agree foden looks class, but can’t see you giving him say 10-15 games from the start.

Unfortunately I can’t see who you could have loaned him to, as nobody really plays the city way at a lower level. With the game time he has had so far, he shouldn’t be near the england team either. On pure ability, maybe. But Owen had played best part of 40 games and scored almost 20 goals before he went to France.

I’d compare fodens situation to walcotts in regards to potential, and Walcott should never have gone to the World Cup.
 
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Bobby Madley quits as a ref, one less mongrel to put up with i suppose....
 

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said the same thing to my lad but he has been going on some of the city sites and there saying although he's the best, with both Silvas, Gundoghan, Foden the Stockport iniesta, Mahrez, Delph there's more than enough cover. Time will tell.

Cut & pasted correctly 😛

It’s one thing having ‘cover’ but it’s totally another loosing KDB who is, IMO, instrumental in Cities success.

His attacking prowess, his goals and his deliveries are second to none, he suits Cities set up perfectly and the players around him, I think he will be massively missed, to the degree that I think when you think about KDB, you can think, ‘well there’s another 12 points in a season’!
 

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Big blow for City - KDB looks like goinf to be out for a while with a knee injury , hopefully for him it’s nothing too serious. I know City have a big squad and players to come in but missing the best Midfielder in Football is going to affect the team

im sure ped knows a doc who can help......... :D
 

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Funniest story of the day, Real complaining about an illegal approach by Inter for Modric. Real complaining :rofl:. There must be a lot of teams laughing about that.
 

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Ave said this before Homer and al say it again. He has always needed 4 or five chances. But like on Sunday he scored an excellent goal and nearly got another that would of been better. He is capable of games like that. He gets stick for missing but here's a thought. He is in the team in front of others/strikers who are not as good. He was the only player in England's team that ran past players. Croatia were pooing bricks, because he was the only player that had pace. Yet he had a bad game? I don't get it. England are up to 4th or 6th ( ave forgot ) in the world rankings. Yet we were rubbish? Who were Englands best players. Keeper and defence. Kane got six goals, yet did he have a good World Cup.
its alright bringing it up now, but it should of been addressed at the time.

Good points well made. He can have great games but in my limited viewing of him he usually has more games where he needs those 4-5 chances to score and games where he runs pass players but then goes down a blind alley. He is a talent. No doubt about that which is why he gets picked regularly for his club. At international level though I think he's more limited especially as chances can be at a premium. Against Croatia where we dominated the first half he was confident but in the second half once Modric seized control brilliantly he went back into his shell (not alone in that) and his touch went again.
 
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