chellie
Tour Winner
Good reason to have the rule book in your bag.
Add to the myths of rules
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I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway! 
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chellie
Tour Winner
Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!
Can't understand why you let him do that.
Foxholer
Blackballed
I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!
That's the point where I'd be inclined to invoke the 'Beers (or Pots of Tea) on it' approach that Bluewolf seems to have used!
Hosel Fade
Tour Rookie
I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!
That only applies to the playing of a provisional which is short of the original ball not a walk 200 odd yards back and play #3 ball.
"Show me where it says that in the rules, or you're not having it" or maybe a more polite version of that sentence
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
You can't lose your ball on the fairway is one I've heard a few times, it goes something like this
Blind tee shot everyone agrees it's down the middle or there abouts, no sign of the ball so it must have been taken by a outside party therefore free drop in the fairway if everyone agrees that there is no other thing that could have happened
Blind tee shot everyone agrees it's down the middle or there abouts, no sign of the ball so it must have been taken by a outside party therefore free drop in the fairway if everyone agrees that there is no other thing that could have happened
williamalex1
Money List Winner
That was a local rule at Blairbeth GC., when playing their 18th, the local neds would wait at the top of the hill and nick the balls.
So we were told many years ago when playing them in a Alliance league match.
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Don't think you are allowed to declare a ball lost or not lost either!
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
You declare by actions not words
rulefan
Tour Winner
You don't do anything - the Rules deem the ball lost (if appropriate). :smirk:
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Of course, and the rules are applied to your actions
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Does the rule book even cover bluewolf's scenario though? (sufficient to appease two guys with their mortgage slips in hand)
Its more likely in the decisions
rulefan
Tour Winner
It's under 'H' in the Definitions. There is no definition for 'Un-holed'. :smirk:
chrisd
Major Champion
I find the rule book a nightmare as I can never find what I need quickly enough. I had the discussion about grounding on a bridge - if I had a "decisions on the rules" no problem but could I find the "proof" that you can ground your club, in wording acceptable to the other guy - no, not in the time available. Luckily I was able to text him the relevant bits later
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm aware you were looking for specifics but surely the concept If it's not in the book then surely at can't be against the rules should be used?
I'm pretty certain it doesn't say in the book you can hole out whilst holding the flag without penalty.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Which book?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
The rules of golf
chrisd
Major Champion
I did say that but I was trying to prove
The status of a bridge
The difference of a bridge over a water hazard
The decision that it's ok to touch the bridge if the ball is on it.
It doesn't always cut it to say "show me where it says you can't" in a chat at the range. Also he said that they have a local rule saying that the bridge is part of the hazard and that you can't ground your club, cos the Pro said so - I did say that a pro golfer would be the last person I'd ask!
bobmac
Major Champion
Strange as he/she would be one of the few if any people at your club who has actually passed a rules exam
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
And promptly forgotten most of it in many cases
