Add to the myths of rules

[chellie]

These were 2 intelligent guys, who'd never met before. And they were both absolutely adamant they were right. They had me doubting myself a bit. Oh well, that's 2 free pints next time I'm at the club.

Good reason to have the rule book in your bag.

 

[delc]

I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!

 

[chellie]

Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!

Can't understand why you let him do that.

 

[Foxholer]

I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!

That's the point where I'd be inclined to invoke the 'Beers (or Pots of Tea) on it' approach that Bluewolf seems to have used!

 

[Hosel Fade]

I played in an inter club match this morning when one of our opponents pull hooked his drive into a small wood, where it hit a tree quite hard. We searched for several minutes without finding it. He went back to the tee and played another shot. Then as we walked along the fairway we found his original ball, much further along than seemed possible. He insisted that he was still entitled to play it, even though more than 5 minutes had elapsed and he had put another ball into play. His justification was that he hadn't declared the ball lost, and he hadn't played past the spot where it was found. He was absolutely insistent that he was right, so as it was basically a friendly match we let him get on with it, rather than create an argument. Fortunately his score didn't feature in that hole anyway!

That only applies to the playing of a provisional which is short of the original ball not a walk 200 odd yards back and play #3 ball.

"Show me where it says that in the rules, or you're not having it" or maybe a more polite version of that sentence

 

[Val]

You can't lose your ball on the fairway is one I've heard a few times, it goes something like this

Blind tee shot everyone agrees it's down the middle or there abouts, no sign of the ball so it must have been taken by a outside party therefore free drop in the fairway if everyone agrees that there is no other thing that could have happened

 

[williamalex1]

You can't lose your ball on the fairway is one I've heard a few times, it goes something like this

Blind tee shot everyone agrees it's down the middle or there abouts, no sign of the ball so it must have been taken by a outside party therefore free drop in the fairway if everyone agrees that there is no other thing that could have happened

That was a local rule at Blairbeth GC., when playing their 18th, the local neds would wait at the top of the hill and nick the balls.
So we were told many years ago when playing them in a Alliance league match.

 

[delc]

That only applies to the playing of a provisional which is short of the original ball not a walk 200 odd yards back and play #3 ball.

"Show me where it says that in the rules, or you're not having it" or maybe a more polite version of that sentence

Don't think you are allowed to declare a ball lost or not lost either!

 

[Val]

Don't think you are allowed to declare a ball lost or not lost either!

You declare by actions not words

 

[rulefan]

You declare by actions not words

You don't do anything - the Rules deem the ball lost (if appropriate). :smirk:

 

[Val]

You don't do anything - the Rules deem the ball lost (if appropriate). :smirk:

Of course, and the rules are applied to your actions

 

[Slab]

Good reason to have the rule book in your bag.

Does the rule book even cover bluewolf's scenario though? (sufficient to appease two guys with their mortgage slips in hand)

Its more likely in the decisions

 

[rulefan]

Does the rule book even cover bluewolf's scenario though? (sufficient to appease two guys with their mortgage slips in hand)

Its more likely in the decisions

It's under 'H' in the Definitions. There is no definition for 'Un-holed'. :smirk:

 

[chrisd]

Good reason to have the rule book in your bag.

I find the rule book a nightmare as I can never find what I need quickly enough. I had the discussion about grounding on a bridge - if I had a "decisions on the rules" no problem but could I find the "proof" that you can ground your club, in wording acceptable to the other guy - no, not in the time available. Luckily I was able to text him the relevant bits later

 

[Val]

I find the rule book a nightmare as I can never find what I need quickly enough. I had the discussion about grounding on a bridge - if I had a "decisions on the rules" no problem but could I find the "proof" that you can ground your club, in wording acceptable to the other guy - no, not in the time available. Luckily I was able to text him the relevant bits later

I'm aware you were looking for specifics but surely the concept If it's not in the book then surely at can't be against the rules should be used?

I'm pretty certain it doesn't say in the book you can hole out whilst holding the flag without penalty.

 

[rulefan]

I'm pretty certain it doesn't say in the book you can hole out whilst holding the flag without penalty.

Which book?

 

[Val]

Which book?

The rules of golf

 

[chrisd]

I'm aware you were looking for specifics but surely the concept If it's not in the book then surely at can't be against the rules should be used?
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I did say that but I was trying to prove

The status of a bridge

The difference of a bridge over a water hazard

The decision that it's ok to touch the bridge if the ball is on it.

It doesn't always cut it to say "show me where it says you can't" in a chat at the range. Also he said that they have a local rule saying that the bridge is part of the hazard and that you can't ground your club, cos the Pro said so - I did say that a pro golfer would be the last person I'd ask!

 

[bobmac]

I did say that a pro golfer would be the last person I'd ask!

Strange as he/she would be one of the few if any people at your club who has actually passed a rules exam

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Strange as he/she would be one of the few if any people at your club who has actually passed a rules exam

And promptly forgotten most of it in many cases