Acceptable score on non ‘qualifying’ course

[D-S]

If you have a course which, as a whole, is non qualifying as three holes are on temporary greens with ‘bucket’ holes, could you submit a social score having played all 18 holes but inputting NS for the 3 holes that were on the unacceptable temporary greens?

 

[woofers]

No idea and it’s a faff to trawl through the manual but surely it’s against the spirit if you know the course is non qualifying.
A solution to prevent this would be for clubs to go into the EG WHS platform and switch off the tees (markers) so that rounds cannot be registered in the first place.

 

[IanM]

No idea and it’s a faff to trawl through the manual.

indeed. Made me smile

 

[Old Skier]

If you have a course which, as a whole, is non qualifying as three holes are on temporary greens with ‘bucket’ holes, could you submit a social score having played all 18 holes but inputting NS for the 3 holes that were on the unacceptable temporary greens?

Whoever is responsible for the WHS should have switched of the tees on the DB which would stop a specific tee set being used for qualifying via the EG App and downloads from the ISV.

 

[jim8flog]

The simple answer is no as the course must be suitable for qualifying competitions and more than 2 temporary greens makes a course not suitable.

However if the course has a nine hole rating (listed on the DB and England Golf) and the temporary greens are not on the 9 hole rated section you could put in a 9 hole score.

 

[saxonal]

If you have a course which, as a whole, is non qualifying as three holes are on temporary greens with ‘bucket’ holes, could you submit a social score having played all 18 holes but inputting NS for the 3 holes that were on the unacceptable temporary greens?

If you have a course which, as a whole, is non qualifying as three holes are on temporary greens with ‘bucket’ holes, could you submit a social score having played all 18 holes but inputting NS for the 3 holes that were on the unacceptable temporary greens?

WHS Rule of Handicapping 3.2 allows rounds acceptable for handicap purposes to be submitted as long as a minimum of 10 holes have been completed! Those holes out of play must be out for valid reasons such as bad weather, loss of light, maintenance etc other examples given in rule. We have bucket holes on fairways and therefore they do not comply with rules of golf, so cannot not be classed as temporaries. We had attempted to play a round with 13 main greens in play and to play the bucket hole holes (main greens out flooded) for continuity purposes only using, "Not Started" or "Did Not Play" for these holes in scoring software. Scores were accepted by WHS and we thought great at least we can play a semi-meaningful round of golf. An email has just been issued saying that our Authorising Association has advised that play on these bucket holes that are deemed out of play is against the rules of golf as this is classed as on course practice. Qualifiers can be played but players must walk past and must not play the out of play bucket holes. Is this really what the WHS meant when they talked of improving opportunities for more scores to be recorded in winter golf? Local rules allowing on course practice were mentioned but apparently they only apply to before and between competition rounds, not during. Lets simplify the rules of golf they said!!!!

 

[woofers]

Or you could contact your England Golf regional advisor and take out the guess work.

 

[Colin L]

WHS Rule of Handicapping 3.2 allows rounds acceptable for handicap purposes to be submitted as long as a minimum of 10 holes have been completed! Those holes out of play must be out for valid reasons such as bad weather, loss of light, maintenance etc other examples given in rule. We have bucket holes on fairways and therefore they do not comply with rules of golf, so cannot not be classed as temporaries. We had attempted to play a round with 13 main greens in play and to play the bucket hole holes (main greens out flooded) for continuity purposes only using, "Not Started" or "Did Not Play" for these holes in scoring software. Scores were accepted by WHS and we thought great at least we can play a semi-meaningful round of golf. An email has just been issued saying that our Authorising Association has advised that play on these bucket holes that are deemed out of play is against the rules of golf as this is classed as on course practice. Qualifiers can be played but players must walk past and must not play the out of play bucket holes. Is this really what the WHS meant when they talked of improving opportunities for more scores to be recorded in winter golf? Local rules allowing on course practice were mentioned but apparently they only apply to before and between competition rounds, not during. Lets simplify the rules of golf they said!!!!

Why blame the rules of golf for a situation you have created yourselves - a course with 5 holes which don't conform to the rules?

Anyway, I have to say I find the ruling a bit odd and unnecessarily strained. Here's a more straightforward explanation. You can submit a score for a round in which you did not start a hole or a limited number of holes and the reason for doing so is acceptable. In the situation you describe, everyone has started all 18 holes and so this provision isn't applicable. You have played all 18 holes but because there are holes on which the holes are non-conforming the round has not been played according to the rules and isn't acceptable for handicapping purposes.

Sounds simple enough to me!

 

[IanM]

How desperate are the Authorities for us to submit scores? ??

Temporary greens, preferred lies, mats, incomplete rounds.... yep, all good!!

 

[3offTheTee]

The simple answer is no as the course must be suitable for qualifying competitions and more than 2 temporary greens makes a course not suitable.

However if the course has a nine hole rating (listed on the DB and England Golf) and the temporary greens are not on the 9 hole rated section you could put in a 9 hole score.

If there is 1 temporary green on a 9 hole rated course, eg the front nine, is this acceptable please?

 

[rulefan]

If there is 1 temporary green on a 9 hole rated course, eg the front nine, is this acceptable please?

From EG

Winter Golf Checklist & Reference Guide – For Handicap Purposes
Temporary Greens For scores to be acceptable, no more than 2 temporary greens are allowed to be used. For a 9-hole course, only one temporary green will be allowed.