A year to get fit and less fat

[Rooter]

What's with the one upmanship guys. My personal reason for putting on weight is because of arguments like this. I never know what's right and what's wrong.

Why you have to have it out in the public domain is beyond me. Disagreements like this is what PMs are for.

Not oneupmanship at all, Hovis said if you do X you could lose 8 x the fat! I wanted proof as if its true we should all be doing it! Nothing more than that, and i assume Hovis has not taken it as a personal attack, as it most certainly is not. OK there is a bit of banter in there re the daily mail link, but he's a big lad and can take some "Bants"

 

[la_lucha]

Hovis has said he has proof in his notes and merely suggested DM (crap link by the way) as an initial article to back up the theory if not fully. If anyone can prove it does or doesn't burn x amount of fat I'd like to see either, to help me make an educated choice.

 

[pokerjoke]

Hovis has said he has proof in his notes and merely suggested DM (crap link by the way) as an initial article to back up the theory if not fully. If anyone can prove it does or doesn't burn x amount of fat I'd like to see either, to help me make an educated choice.

If you exercise on an empty stomach and sweat and burn some calories you will lose slightly more weight depending of course how much excessive weight you are carrying compared to exercise on a full stomach.

However all these statements about 5 times 8 times etc depends on the individual person.

However if you go home and eat more calories than you have burnt you will put on weight.
This goes for the overall day also you have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight.

 

[Rooter]

Anyway! BTT, here is my plan for not having to watch corrie or eastenders! Plus if its really miserable outside, I am not going running in that! So in a central heated office with 32" TV! Happy days!

 

[la_lucha]

Those Turbo Trainers are quite expensive aren't they. Reports about them being nois puts me off, how do you find it?

 

[Rooter]

Hovis has said he has proof in his notes and merely suggested DM (crap link by the way) as an initial article to back up the theory if not fully. If anyone can prove it does or doesn't burn x amount of fat I'd like to see either, to help me make an educated choice.

OK, well here are some of the articles i found:

says more important what you eat through the day: http://dailyburn.com/life/fitness/fasted-cardio-weight-loss/

Inconclusive really: http://www.mensfitness.com/training/cardio/does-morning-cardio-burn-fat-faster

Maybe good short term, but long term you need fuel: http://www.livestrong.com/article/5...-an-empty-stomach-first-thing-in-the-morning/

Comprises long term fat loss: http://www.builtlean.com/2012/05/29/cardio-empty-stomach/

 

[Rooter]

Those Turbo Trainers are quite expensive aren't they. Reports about them being nois puts me off, how do you find it?

Under 100 quid, I have had it for years, i just got it back after lending it to my brother 2 years ago!!

Noise is not bad at all if you stick a slick tyre on it (as i have) I am actually running a 23" road wheel in my 29r MTB. Does away with needing the front wheel chock to level the bike. The noise i would describe as a constant whir, but watching TV at normal volume is no problem.

 

[la_lucha]

What model do you have if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Rooter]

What model do you have if you don't mind me asking?

Mine is way end of life the brand is 'Elite' , but a quick google says this is its replacement: http://www.halfords.com/cycling/turbo-trainers/trainers/elite-magnetic-cycle-trainer in fact, it is that one with a new paint job and a few slight design changes..

Most important thing is the tyre you use, you can buy specific turbo trainer tyres which will be really quiet and not wear out too quick. If you ran a MTB tyre on it, it would be noisy as hell and burn out after 50km!

 

[rickg]

Keep us posted.

Oh and if you really start to crave food during your fast period then sugar free jelly is a winner. You can buy them in little pots

Nice one...cheers for that tip! :thup:

 

[la_lucha]

Mine is way end of life the brand is 'Elite' , but a quick google says this is its replacement: http://www.halfords.com/cycling/turbo-trainers/trainers/elite-magnetic-cycle-trainer in fact, it is that one with a new paint job and a few slight design changes..

Most important thing is the tyre you use, you can buy specific turbo trainer tyres which will be really quiet and not wear out too quick. If you ran a MTB tyre on it, it would be noisy as hell and burn out after 50km!

I've got a hybrid so I'm running road tyres on that. I may have to consider one of these as congratulations to myself on my new job.

 

[Marshy77]

Just been weighed and lost 2lbs, BMI down from 31 to 30.3, Body fat from 24.1% to 22% so pleased with tht. Not a huge drop in weight but chuffed to see a bit drop off especially after a big Saturday out in Leeds.

 

[hovis]

Just been weighed and lost 2lbs, BMI down from 31 to 30.3, Body fat from 24.1% to 22% so pleased with tht. Not a huge drop in weight but chuffed to see a bit drop off especially after a big Saturday out in Leeds.

As long as the needle is going in the right direction buddy thats all that matters. A few percent doesn't sound much but visually its a massive difference.

Forget bmi. Im 8% body fat and still classed as obese.

Good work

 

[Khamelion]

There are loads of different diets and ways to lose fat:-

• The white diet - This is where you avoid anything that is white, bread, pasta, potato's, milk, rice etc.. You get your macros from eating pulses, legumes, leafy veg and meat. Look up Tim Ferris and the 4hr body for more info on that one.
• The lighter life or Cambridge diet, for those that are really fat, well obese and need to lose weight quickly, on 500 calories a day, the weight falls off, but not a good long term diet
• Fasting as has been discussed here, no need to go any further on this one
• Cabbage soup diet
• detox diet
• any other fad diet the ladies magazines spout forth as the next big thing endorsed by such and such celebrity.

The best diet is one where you eat healthy, but do not deny yourself the things you enjoy, crisp, chocolate, alcohol, pies, pasties etc... as long as you eat them in moderation.

A diet alone, which ever you choose, will work for a period of time and then you will plateau and the fat will not be going and your weight will stay the same, it's at this point, you either eat less and risk your overall health or you start to exercise, to get you going again.

But as you exercise you'll need more of the right macros and subsequently more calories to help your body repair, which to some is counter intuitive. Some think that exercising and eating less is a sure fire way to fast weight loss, not so, you need to eat to fuel your body to enable it to burn the fat stored, to enable it to grow.

All said and done, dieting is personal journey, the diet has to be right for the person undertaking it, but that written, personally I think diet is the wrong word to use, people should be looking at a permanent lifestyle change, not a quick fix. The trouble with diets is that they are a sticking plaster on a broken leg, many people diet and their weight yo-yo's, they get grump and moody cause they crave a takeaway, then they get grump and moody because they succumbed to the craving and had a takeaway.

Eating is just common sense, if you eat rubbish you'll get fat, chance health problems and over time become less mobile, then you eat more rubbish, it's a self-fulfilling circle which many have not got the motivation to break.

Whatever you do, just eat healthy, cook your own grub with fresh produce so you know what's in it.

Do a little exercise 10 press ups, 10 sit ups and 10 burpees a night before bed, 2mins work then you get to lie down, it'll make all the difference.

 

[Khamelion]

Just been weighed and lost 2lbs, BMI down from 31 to 30.3, Body fat from 24.1% to 22% so pleased with tht. Not a huge drop in weight but chuffed to see a bit drop off especially after a big Saturday out in Leeds.

As long as the needle is going in the right direction buddy thats all that matters. A few percent doesn't sound much but visually its a massive difference.

Forget bmi. Im 8% body fat and still classed as obese.

Good work

As Hovis writes, forget looking at your weight, if you're training or doing any kind of moderate exercise you'll chance be building muscle, so you could lose 5lbs of fat but only lose 2lbs off your overall weight, which means that through you exercise you've gained 3lbs of lean muscle.

Being measured around the waist, neck and chest every couple of weeks are much better indicators of how you are progressing, as if a record of your body fat %.

 

[Marshy77]

As Hovis writes, forget looking at your weight, if you're training or doing any kind of moderate exercise you'll chance be building muscle, so you could lose 5lbs of fat but only lose 2lbs off your overall weight, which means that through you exercise you've gained 3lbs of lean muscle.

Being measured around the waist, neck and chest every couple of weeks are much better indicators of how you are progressing, as if a record of your body fat %.

Cheers, taken a few pics hoping for a before and after. To be honest I've never really been bothered about how much I weigh I do tend to go by how I look. You can easily tell when you've lost or put on weight.

 

[Hobbit]

Weighed in at 16st 2lbs this morning. Only a few pounds away from breaking one of the goals, i.e. get below 16st. Next target is to get below 15st 7lbs by the end of Jan - and Christmas stuck in the middle of that hence not a huge stretch goal...

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Weighed in at 16st 2lbs this morning. Only a few pounds away from breaking one of the goals, i.e. get below 16st. Next target is to get below 15st 7lbs by the end of Jan - and Christmas stuck in the middle of that hence not a huge stretch goal...

Good result after your few beers last night😃

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Weight - 15st 7lb
% Body Fat - 35.6%
Neck - 42cm
Chest - 113cm
Waist - 114cm
Hip - 105cm

4 weeks since last on scales and 6 since stats submitted.

Weight - 15st 2lb - Down 5lb
% Body Fat - 35.4% - Down .2%
Neck - 42cm - Same
Chest - 112cm - Down 1cm
Waist - 108cm - Down 6cm
Hip - 103cm - Down 2cm

Pleased with a 5lb loss and a few cm's off waist etc, but with only a small decrease in body fat, is it likely the weight loss is water?

 

[hovis]

4 weeks since last on scales and 6 since stats submitted.

Weight - 15st 2lb - Down 5lb
% Body Fat - 35.4% - Down .2%
Neck - 42cm - Same
Chest - 112cm - Down 1cm
Waist - 108cm - Down 6cm
Hip - 103cm - Down 2cm

Pleased with a 5lb loss and a few cm's off waist etc, but with only a small decrease in body fat, is it likely the weight loss is water?

How is your fat being measured?