Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
If they do bring this in, There's no way they will make it playing 3 from the OOB or Lost Ball
A question for the rules experts
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clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes I fear your correct.
But golf seems to be all about speeding things up and getting rid of rules they don’t like.
I have played a fair bit in America and we’re slowly following them and imo it’s not good.
bobmac
Major Champion
Are they used just for tee shots or all shots?
D-S
Well-known member
I’ve seen them used for both but mainly for tee shots especially early in the round.
Unfortunately I have also seen players not counting them whilst submitting scores for handicap (however in the players defence it would be unlikely if they ever used their handicap for competitions for even small amounts of other people’s money).
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Depends how drunk they are.!
I can’t belive how much Some Americans put away on a course while driving a buggy then drive home.
Speakers on the buggy blasting out music.
Coming to a course near you if we carry on copying the American way.
D-S
Well-known member
The on course drinking culture and now blaring music whilst playing has been around for quite a while now in the US and, thankfully, no real signs of this becoming a thing over here - long may this remain the case.
bobmac
Major Champion
I hope I go before they make it compulsory (Alliss P.)
Neilds
Assistant Pro
My rule change would remove all mention of temporary obstructions, immovable objects, and the like. Find the ball, play the ball. If you can’t play it, drop it 2 club lengths away with a one shot penalty and play it. Repeat until the round is finished. Will speed up rounds no end.
KenL
Tour Rookie
How often do you have to take a drop from an immovable object?
We have a paths that run throughout the course, one right next to a par 3 green. I probably use this option a few times a year.
It would not “speed up rounds no end” as you suggest to remove this rule. In my opinion of course.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Wasn’t just referring to your rounds but in the pro game will definitely speed things up
KenL
Tour Rookie
So, no relief from TV towers, cables, fences, grandstands etc. that aren’t normally there? Madness.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Picking up the issue and question I raised in another thread.
I get to my ball in the rough and can see it is precariously balanced on some long grass. I judge that it is effectively KOVC that by simply taking a stance my ball will move.
The current rule is that that is tough - and I am penalised.
I'm thinking what would be the issue if I could call a playing companion over to witness the situation. If he agreed that it was effectively KOVC that the ball will move no matter how careful I am when taking a stance then he watches me take a stance and if it moves I am allowed to replace it as close as possible to its original position (let's say the rule is within 6") in a place where it will be much less likely to move when I take a stance. If after placing my ball the ball moves - I am penalized at that point - as per the current rule.
It's not going to happen as a rule change but that's not the point of this thread.
And I'm one of those who respond to bleats of 'unfairness' with what was said to me way back then by an auld fella when I'd moaned of an unfairness...'nobody said golf was supposed to be fair'
I get to my ball in the rough and can see it is precariously balanced on some long grass. I judge that it is effectively KOVC that by simply taking a stance my ball will move.
The current rule is that that is tough - and I am penalised.
I'm thinking what would be the issue if I could call a playing companion over to witness the situation. If he agreed that it was effectively KOVC that the ball will move no matter how careful I am when taking a stance then he watches me take a stance and if it moves I am allowed to replace it as close as possible to its original position (let's say the rule is within 6") in a place where it will be much less likely to move when I take a stance. If after placing my ball the ball moves - I am penalized at that point - as per the current rule.
It's not going to happen as a rule change but that's not the point of this thread.
And I'm one of those who respond to bleats of 'unfairness' with what was said to me way back then by an auld fella when I'd moaned of an unfairness...'nobody said golf was supposed to be fair'
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Not really, they shouldn’t be hitting it anywhere near those objects.
Today in the ladies Scottish Open, one player (playing with Our Lottie) missed the last fairway by quite a bit (4 or 5 yards at least), had to take a drop off a path then had to wait over 5 minutes while they shifted a tv camera of the mound in front of her. This lessened the ‘punishment’ for a wayward tee shot.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Took up time. Why was there no line of sight relief as there usually is for tv equipment?
Edit…
Some stands are very near greens and can easily come into play with a bad bounce or high wind. Pro players should not have stricter rules than everyone else.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Not saying they should have stricter rules, same for everyone
bobmac
Major Champion
Not a rule change I know but....
I'd like to see the TV coverage change.
I'd prefer it if the coverage only showed players actually playing their shots, not all the faffing around they do beforehand.
The golfing public do like to copy the guys on TV and that includes lining up a 3 foot putt for 5 minutes or checking yardage books, tossing up grass etc.
Don't show all the faff, just cut to the player as they are about to hit their shot.
This could give the impression that the players were actually playing quite quickly which might help put an end to the amateur 5 + hour rounds.
I'd like to see the TV coverage change.
I'd prefer it if the coverage only showed players actually playing their shots, not all the faffing around they do beforehand.
The golfing public do like to copy the guys on TV and that includes lining up a 3 foot putt for 5 minutes or checking yardage books, tossing up grass etc.
Don't show all the faff, just cut to the player as they are about to hit their shot.
This could give the impression that the players were actually playing quite quickly which might help put an end to the amateur 5 + hour rounds.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Always thought that’s a strange one.
There not normally there when members play.
But they are there on every course the pros play as the TV follow them around so TV towers and fixed objects etc are there before the pros arrive.
Just a thought!
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Just have to be careful to not make it move.
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
I don't think I've ever had the situation where I can't take a stance without the ball moving, maybe I've just been lucky in my 50 years of playing golf, Is this a common problem at your place for just missing a fairway or are you talking about missing a fairway by so far that it's on ground never cut
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
Not sure you have thought this through properly, what about coming to rest 2 inches behind a marker post in the middle of the fairway, a chip to the side or a penatlty shot ?
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