9/Tenths Sucks.

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oltimer

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Just had my first 4bbb away match off this new format, giving a 25 hcapr 12 shots (used to be 10) we were 5 down after 6 holes as he parred 5 and bogey halved one, lost 2 + 1 at 17th where off 3/4 we would have been dormie one up.

what is the point of 9/10th why not make it 10/10ths.
 
I can't see your argument. Is the issue is that you lost? Or that a 25hcp had the nerve to play well over the first 6 holes? Would you still be complaining if you shot 6 under your handicap?

Or, to summarise, why should it NOT be 9/10ths?
 
oltimer said:
Just had my first 4bbb away match off this new format, giving a 25 hcapr 12 shots (used to be 10) we were 5 down after 6 holes as he parred 5 and bogey halved one, lost 2 + 1 at 17th where off 3/4 we would have been dormie one up.

what is the point of 9/10th why not make it 10/10ths.
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Close game then, does that not prove the handicap system is working:lol:
 
"virtuocity"- not that we lost as often do that that off 3/4, the 25 hcapr incidentally was 12 over gross for 16 holes which makes one wonder - but thats not the point. Just don`t see why they came up with 9/10 and not full hcap (if there was ever a reason to change it as it appears to only benefit the high hcprs).
If I ever shot 6 under my hcap (fat chance) I would be scoring my age
 
for the equation to work 50/50 in high or low h/cappers winning matches the difference should be 105%. so why they only made it 90% who knows.
to my mind the difference should be just that ,the difference.not a percentage of.
 
The golf unions have access to huge data samples and statistically will continue to favour the lower handicappers as they always have. Play them 100 times and you will win more times than not.

People used to say that about full difference in singles, it went from 61% low cap wins with 3/4 to 55% with full difference.
 
Speaking as originally a 33 handicap, then most numbers all the way down to zero, I can't see how any maths based system can ever be perfect.

There's so much human error in golf, multiply that by a few hundred members in each club.

Sure it can be frustrating if someone plays WELL below their handicap and takes the competition out of any match, but people have high handicaps for a reason, ie they normally take a lot of shots to get round.

On a one-off basis, two genuine 8 handicappers playing two genuine 26ers could win, lose or draw giving each 18 shots , but I'd hazard a guess that if they played 10 times, the low guys would win more than they would lose.
 
The issue as I see it is that, for example, my pp off 24 does not bogey, bogey double bogey every 3 holes all the way around. He is capable of par on plenty holes, he is just as capable of an 8 or 9. That's just a loss, whereas his pars are generally wins. We played the other night and while I won more holes by far, he halves loads with bogeys. Thankfully there was no grumbling but I can see why someone low would get frustrated by it. I reckon if we played off 3/4 it would have possibly been a different result but you never know because you play to the shots allowed, so had he had two fewer shots who knows how he would've played those two holes and now that I think if it I won SI 13 anyway. I guess we will see how it Pans out this season and if it's not working they can always revert.
 
I just don't get the taking shots off for a comp higher handicap plays always lose more shots giveing the better player the advantage
 
t0m said:
I just don't get the taking shots off for a comp higher handicap plays always lose more shots giveing the better player the advantage
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Like I say I think it's to do with how a higher handicap puts their scores together. Just cos ur number is higher doesn't mean ur incapable of par an any hole, I'll wager someone off 24 has more pars in a round than someone off 6 has birdies. I reckon it evens out, and whoever plays better on their day wins. Fact is lower handicaps play better more often, so yes in that respect the advantage lies with them but all that means is whoever can get around a course in fewer shots wins, is that wrong?

At the end of the day, both golfers have the chance to win, they just have to play well
 
Sure if the handicapping system works why doesn't everyone play off their proper full handicaps



Its because club by club , country by country there are rogues out there who just wana win these kinda things , nothing to do with handicap allowances , people are the problem
 
bladeplayer said:
Sure if the handicapping system works why doesn't everyone play off their proper full handicaps



Its because club by club , country by country there are rogues out there who just wana win these kinda things , nothing to do with handicap allowances , people are the problem
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There may well be (almost certainly are!) rogues out there, but that is not relevant to the 90% (or 75% previously) allowance!

That, supposedly, is related to the statistical likelihood of any of the 3 higher handicappers producing a winning score on any hole compared to the low-capper - and in any of the potential make-ups of the 4-ball. I think 90% was actually a fudge to placate those who wanted it left at 75% as opposed to the 'full' that has been used in other countries! I think it will go to 100% next time!
 
It was set at 90% because players like yourself would moan more if they went straight to 100%. I can only assume you think it sucks because you lost?
 
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