7/7 Memorial vandalised on anniversary!!!

[Deleted Member 1156]

Maybe this act was performed by some group like the BNP to incite exactly the sort of response you have shown davey? Until the truth comes out it is dangerous to jump to conclusions.

 

[Rumpokid]

Your views are as dangerous as theirs

Can't see Daveyboy trotting off to Syria or Iraq on an ISIS all inclusive summer break somehow..

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Any extremist regardless of background or religion needs dealt with.

And whilst 9/11 and 7/7 were huge and lots of lives were lost - they were still isolated as opposed to every day incidents.

But do we hear about all of the failed attempts? I doubt it very much!!!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

There seems to be a feeling (perhaps its me) that human rights seem more important than the law. Zealots have hidden behind it for ages. Look at the length of time (not helped by their own red tape bungling) it took the government to deport that hook armed prohphet (who's name escapes me).

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe this act was performed by some group like the BNP to incite exactly the sort of response you have shown davey? Until the truth comes out it is dangerous to jump to conclusions.

Exactly

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But do we hear about all of the failed attempts? I doubt it very much!!!

Failed attempts from who ? And in this country yes you will hear about failed attempts because they are good "PR" showing the country is prepared and can foil any attacks.

 

[User20205]

Can't see Daveyboy trotting off to Syria or Iraq on an ISIS all inclusive summer break somehow..

No, but he's still preaching diversive nonsense

But do we hear about all of the failed attempts? I doubt it very much!!!

Now you're scared of something you don't even know exists!! Be careful of the bogeyman in the cupboard!

 

[Rumpokid]

No, but he's still preaching diversive nonsense
Your getting mixed up with them imams,or whatever they call themselves, encouraging jihad..


Now you're scared of something you don't even know exists!! Be careful of the bogeyman in the cupboard!

...I think even MI5 are also scared of what does and doesn't exist at this time.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

How many on here remember the IRA? Many lives lost on mainlaind attacks. Did the country grind to a halt in panic. If a radical group are going to strike they're strike. I don't and never will subscribe to their message but they won't win in Britain in the same way as the IRA were never going to. I won't live in fear of something that may or may not happen

 

[Blue in Munich]

Woah wait a minute... I don't tarnish all Muslims with the same brush and I work with Muslims who share my views. I am talking about the extremist side of the religion.

I'd suggest you re-read your first post then. Referring to pieces of crap doing this on our land alongside a picture with the slogan 4 Innocent Muslims without any further clarification does tarnish the general reputation of Muslims.

 

[SocketRocket]

Two weeks ago we had a few days away visiting some of the places we used to visit with the kids. One of these were Bournemouth, a place I have nice childhood memories and had some good holidays with my children.

What a shock! I really felt like a foreigner, the beach and pier area were packed on a nice sunny Sunday but you could not hear English being spoken. The vast numbers of people seemed to be Asian, Arabic, Romanian and eastern European who generally want to shout to each other very loudly in anything but English. The beach was filthy with litter and I am not sure if I was amused or disgusted at the sight of groups of Muslim men in the sea having a great time while the Women all sat on the beach in their robes and head covers.

I guess it will be pointed out to me that this experience was something I should be endeared to as it reflects the wonderful multi cultural Britain that we now live in that enriches our lives. I suppose I am also intolerant if I agree with 'Dave Boy' that that defacing of the 9-11 memorial is disgusting and the perpetrators should be dolled out similar punishments to that they would expect from Muslim law.

 

[User20205]

...I think even MI5 are also scared of what does and doesn't exist at this time.

It's no different from the past, just a different package. I don't remember the Irish being demonised to such a degree because of a few extremists.

 

[Rumpokid]

How many on here remember the IRA? Many lives lost on mainlaind attacks. Did the country grind to a halt in panic. If a radical group are going to strike they're strike. I don't and never will subscribe to their message but they won't win in Britain in the same way as the IRA were never going to. I won't live in fear of something that may or may not happen

Digressing a little here..But i do not think the IRA lost neither..

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I'd suggest you re-read your first post then. Referring to pieces of crap doing this on our land alongside a picture with the slogan 4 Innocent Muslims without any further clarification does tarnish the general reputation of Muslims.

Muslim Extremists... Unfortunately they share the same religion, do you think good Muslims will be happy with there religion being used in this way?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Two weeks ago we had a few days away visiting some of the places we used to visit with the kids. One of these were Bournemouth, a place I have nice childhood memories and had some good holidays with my children.

What a shock! I really felt like a foreigner, the beach and pier area were packed on a nice sunny Sunday but you could not hear English being spoken. The vast numbers of people seemed to be Asian, Arabic, Romanian and eastern European who generally want to shout to each other very loudly in anything but English. The beach was filthy with litter and I am not sure if I was amused or disgusted at the sight of groups of Muslim men in the sea having a great time while the Women all sat on the beach in their robes and head covers.

I guess it will be pointed out to me that this experience was something I should be endeared to as it reflects the wonderful multi cultural Britain that we now live in that enriches our lives. I suppose I am also intolerant if I agree with 'Dave Boy' that that defacing of the 7-11 memorial is disgusting and the perpetrators should be dolled out similar punishments to that they would expect from Muslim law.

I dont think anyone has suggested that the defacing of the 7/7 isnt disgusting and hopefully the perpetrators will be caught and punished for their crimes - the punisments will be according to the laws set out by our governing body.

So now Bournemouth beach is dirty because of non english people ? As for the rest of your post - well yes you do show a lack of intolerance towards other cultures but it certainly isnt the first time

 

[Deleted member 18588]

How many on here remember the IRA? Many lives lost on mainlaind attacks. Did the country grind to a halt in panic. If a radical group are going to strike they're strike. I don't and never will subscribe to their message but they won't win in Britain in the same way as the IRA were never going to. I won't live in fear of something that may or may not happen

Remember it only too well, particularly the Birmingham pub bombings and the reactions including anti-Irish/Catholic protest marches which made me feel guilty for being a Brummie.

This sort of generalisation and stereotyping never has and never will achieve anything.

I appreciate Daveyboy's comments about the majority of Muslims but there remains danger in extreme reactions to the actions of extremists.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I'm out... I'm sure a lot more on here would agree with me but they are not prepared to express there views in fear of PC Rod giving them a telling off for being a terrorist extremist.

Now where did I leave that nail bomb? :mmm:

 

[SocketRocket]

Exactly

Really!

 

[User20205]

Two weeks ago we had a few days away visiting some of the places we used to visit with the kids. One of these were Bournemouth, a place I have nice childhood memories and had some good holidays with my children.

What a shock! I really felt like a foreigner, the beach and pier area were packed on a nice sunny Sunday but you could not hear English being spoken. The vast numbers of people seemed to be Asian, Arabic, Romanian and eastern European who generally want to shout to each other very loudly in anything but English. The beach was filthy with litter and I am not sure if I was amused or disgusted at the sight of groups of Muslim men in the sea having a great time while the Women all sat on the beach in their robes and head covers.

I guess it will be pointed out to me that this experience was something I should be endeared to as it reflects the wonderful multi cultural Britain that we now live in that enriches our lives. I suppose I am also intolerant if I agree with 'Dave Boy' that that defacing of the 7-11 memorial is disgusting and the perpetrators should be dolled out similar punishments to that they would expect from Muslim law.

No one disagrees that the vandals should be punished, but how would you feel if d4s's theory was bourne out, would you feel moved to apologise for your presumption.

Re your experience of bournemouth, you're taking nonsense. There are groups of foreign visitors that enjoy the beautiful spot that it is, and also a large number of workers from abroad that work in the service industries that are the cornerstone of the local economy.

Your impression is nothing like my daily experience of living and working in the town.
I would suggest that you are looking for examples to support your preconceived views. Bournemouth is a great example of where a multicultural society works.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I dont think anyone has suggested that the defacing of the 7/7 isnt disgusting and hopefully the perpetrators will be caught and punished for their crimes - the punisments will be according to the laws set out by our governing body.

So now Bournemouth beach is dirty because of non english people ? As for the rest of your post - well yes you do show a lack of intolerance towards other cultures but it certainly isnt the first time

Absolutely correct.

One can only wonder what the Spanish make of the English abroad then…..