6-9 irons

bobmac said:
A 2 handicap golfer moves from a links course to a parkland course so he takes out the 2 iron 'driller' and replaces it with an 18 degree hybrid 'floater'.
He also changes his wedges for more bounce for the long lush fairways. He buys a heavier putter for the slower greens.
Dumbing down?
I think not.

A 22 handicap golfer cant hit a 5 iron due to a rubbish swing so buys a 5 hybrid.
He duffs his wedges so buys more wedges. His putting stroke is all over the place so he keeps buying more putters
Dumbing down?

By all means use technology to enhance your skills but dont try and replace a skill with the latest shiney
Those who do may end up with a rubbish technique and a garage full of drivers, wedges and putters
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Ahh ok, so this is not about dumbing down at all, its about "dont try and buy a game"
 
For me it isn't about 'Dumbing Down'. Personally I'd say that a long iron is far easier to control and much more Versatile providing you can find the Middle of the Club.
In the same way that you get more feel from a players iron than a SGI shovel.
Why are most wedges Bladed??

But If you disagree and you can hit a variety of shots with your Hybrid, Fair Enough.
 
bobmac said:
A 2 handicap golfer moves from a links course to a parkland course so he takes out the 2 iron 'driller' and replaces it with an 18 degree hybrid 'floater'.
He also changes his wedges for more bounce for the long lush fairways. He buys a heavier putter for the slower greens.
Dumbing down?
I think not.

A 22 handicap golfer cant hit a 5 iron due to a rubbish swing so buys a 5 hybrid.
He duffs his wedges so buys more wedges. His putting stroke is all over the place so he keeps buying more putters
Dumbing down?

By all means use technology to enhance your skills but dont try and replace a skill with the latest shiney
Those who do may end up with a rubbish technique and a garage full of drivers, wedges and putters
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But in a way the fact that people do buy clubs on a regular basis is sustaining part of the game as a whole. And it also sustains golf magazines so they can provide forums for us all to rant away on.

And by your admission there, they still will not have bought the skill, so the game has not really become any easier to them. It is still a challenge, arguably more of one if they have a hybrid where they need to keep it low. Yes they may have a garage full of clubs (guilty as charged sir) but is that really doing anyone any harm? As if they want to take the game a bit more seriously then they will have lessons.
 
Hybrids are obviously easier, that's why they were invented.
For those of you who hook your hybrids, I found out a few years ago that I should always have a stiffer shaft in the hybrid than the irons, eg stiff in irons so X in the hybrid. This has served me well and I recommend to try.
 
Three said:
Hybrids are obviously easier, that's why they were invented.
For those of you who hook your hybrids, I found out a few years ago that I should always have a stiffer shaft in the hybrid than the irons, eg stiff in irons so X in the hybrid. This has served me well and I recommend to try.
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No its not, they were invented to launch higher and land softer.
 
Alex1975 said:
No its not, they were invented to launch higher and land softer.
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No they weren't that is just something they do, they were invented as an alternative to long irons because long irons are a difficult skill to aquire.

And of course the club's are not going to play shots for you but every added little bit of "Artificial consistency" makes the game easier.
 
BoadieBroadus said:
the player who couldn't hit a 5 iron off a tee probably won't be able to hit the new hybrid off the tee well either. no matter what they say, new clubs aren't that more forgiving.
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But is that any different to someone not be able to use a particular Driver then buys one they can.

Sometimes it's between the ears were the problem lies😃
 
Try as I might, hitting my hybrid into a strong wind or punching a low draw under the trees remains too difficult. Which is why I keep my three iron in the bag :) . But just off the fairway and 180 out in the first cut? Hybrid every time.
 
freddielong said:
No they weren't that is just something they do, they were invented as an alternative to long irons because long irons are a difficult skill to aquire.

And of course the club's are not going to play shots for you but every added little bit of "Artificial consistency" makes the game easier.
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OK, genuine question. Do you think we have got to the stage where the game is too easy so that is not a challenge for the vast majority of amateurs that play the game?
 
Three said:
Hence making it easier.

Plus they are more forgiving for off-centre hits.
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But you could argue that that is the case for every single iron, driver, wedge and hybrid release there has ever been when they are updating their ranges. Has any manufacturer ever launched a new club and said "this is less forgiving on off centre hits?"
 
freddielong said:
No they weren't that is just something they do, they were invented as an alternative to long irons because long irons are a difficult skill to aquire.

And of course the club's are not going to play shots for you but every added little bit of "Artificial consistency" makes the game easier.
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Sorry, that's not the case. Long irons fly too flat to land on hard modern greens. Hybrids were designed to combat that and to land soft at long range.
 
freddielong said:
No not yet.

But I do think we are near a tipping point.
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So we are getting very close to the stage where the tech in clubs/balls will be enough to make up for poor technique for the vast majority of players? Can't see it myself, especially with the way the tolerances are so heavily regulated by the governing bodies.
 
Hacker Khan said:
So we are getting very close to the stage where the tech in clubs/balls will be enough to make up for poor technique for the vast majority of players? Can't see it myself, especially with the way the tolerances are so heavily regulated by the governing bodies.
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I think we are closer than we should be yes
 
Hacker Khan said:
So we are getting very close to the stage where the tech in clubs/balls will be enough to make up for poor technique for the vast majority of players? Can't see it myself, especially with the way the tolerances are so heavily regulated by the governing bodies.
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And have been for a pretty long time!
 
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