6-9 irons

Liverpoolphil said:
I play with plenty who played the game through those years who suggest the game is still just as hard

Until someone produces something to show that the game is easier then it's just opinions
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Phil I find the fact that you you would argue with bobmac given his years working in the game and his experience as a coach and professional based on a hunch remarkably arrogant and disrespectful.
 
freddielong said:
Phil I find the fact that you you would argue with bobmac given his years working in the game and his experience as a coach and professional based on a hunch remarkably arrogant and disrespectful.
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I'd disagree. This is a subjective debate in which there are different opinions. A pro's opinion does not necessarily hold more weight than any other.
 
freddielong said:
Phil I find the fact that you you would argue with bobmac given his years working in the game and his experience as a coach and professional based on a hunch remarkably arrogant and disrespectful.
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Ive no problem with Phil having a different opinion than me, even if it's not his own.
Live and let live.

I've said my piece.
If only one person practices more and buys less stuff then I'll be happy
 
freddielong said:
Ok

Name an area of the game that hasn't been made easier in the last 10 years
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I think the argument was more about whether the fact that it has got a bit easier is a bad thing. Well that's what I was debating anyway. I'm not sure anyone can really argue that advances in club and ball technology has not made it easier to hit a shot in vaguely the intended direction. But I think you are vastly overestimating the effect that has had on the game in general at the level the vast majority of amateurs play at in regards to challenge.

And to me the upside of increased enjoyment and engagement by those using the new technology through a shot going a bit further, straighter or higher vastly outweighs any downsides in that the game is not challenging enough, or the worry that it may not be shortly if things continue.

But then again even I think I'm going round in circles now so I'll bob out. And go and buy myself a new wedge as my short game is bloody awful at the moment. ;)
 
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Hacker Khan said:
I think the argument was more about whether the fact that it has got a bit easier is a bad thing. Well that's what I was debating anyway. I'm not sure anyone can really argue that advances in club and ball technology has made it easier to hit a shot in vaguely the intended direction. But I think you are vastly overestimating the effect that has had on the game in general at the level the vast majority of amateurs play at in regards to challenge.

And to me the upside of increased enjoyment and engagement by those using the new technology through a shot going a bit further, straighter or higher vastly outweighs any downsides in that the game is not challenging enough, or the worry that it may not be shortly if things continue.

But then again even I think I'm going round in circles now so I'll bob out. And go and buy myself a new wedge as my short game is bloody awful at the moment. ;)
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That is were it started but certain people were adamant that the game was not easier
 
freddielong said:
Phil I find the fact that you you would argue with bobmac given his years working in the game and his experience as a coach and professional based on a hunch remarkably arrogant and disrespectful.
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I'm not arguing - I'm offering an opinion to a person I respect and had a few rounds of golf with.
 
What I can't fathom, from any poster yet, is what is actually wrong with the game being a fraction (and we are talking fractions) easier?

Seems a very elitist point of view if I'm being honest.
 
tugglesf239 said:
What I can't fathom, from any poster yet, is what is actually wrong with the game being a fraction (and we are talking fractions) easier?

Seems a very elitist point of view if I'm being honest.
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Maybe it is, but I think some of the fractions are fairly sizeable and i would rather people put the effort in and got better the old fashioned way.
 
freddielong said:
Maybe it is, but I think some of the fractions are fairly sizeable and i would rather people put the effort in and got better the old fashioned way.
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You're 43 not 93! Maybe we shoukd wear collar and tie and tweeds when we play, then let's see the blighters swing a club😃
 
freddielong said:
Maybe it is, but I think some of the fractions are fairly sizeable and i would rather people put the effort in and got better the old fashioned way.
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So time to bring back the mashie , the persimmon driver etc

That's the old fashioned way is it not ?
 
freddielong said:
I am 43 I have played golf since I was 11 so I know what I am talking about
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I'm a little surprised, your very much a traditionalist, I had you down as nearly double that.

Not questioning whether you know what your on about as all you have done is give an opinion. Opinions can't be wrong.

How come the very traditional out look and dislike you the wider youth?
 
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