6-9 irons

freddielong said:
Absolutely agree give some of today's cat 1 golfers persimmon woods and a set of blades and the wouldn't break 90.
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No really , I playrd with Titliest blades for years and won many comps and maintained a cat 1 handicap , still do but now change to TM as fancied a change and its so easy with new clubs .......................I used to go round Dudsbury with a callaway 2 iron off the tee , course is 6900 plus yards .................EYG
 
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freddielong said:
The point was golf is now easier some people find that hard to admit.
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Yes equipment is much better as all things evolve? Don't know where you are going with this are you saying we should all go back to blades and Persimmons so it is the same as how it was? The pros are also playing courses that are 7500 yards which would be unheard of in the good'ol days which kind of offsets it?
 
bobmac said:
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
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Oh Bob, the irony. ;)

460cc drivers were for those who couldn't hit 415cc ones
415cc drivers were for those who couldn't hit 330cc drivers
330cc drivers were for those who couldn't hit 270cc drivers
Metal drivers were for those who couldn't hit a wooden one.

How many people who decry hybrids for making the game easy are using wooden drivers? I'd guess none. Seems a bit hypocritical to have a go at hybrids but using a huge titanium melon on the end of a lightweight shaft is OK.

Having learned with wooden woods I'd say modern drivers make the game much easier than hybrids.
 
I am not going anywhere just saying I think the equipment shouldn't remove the skill, I believe we are at a point where modern equipment has a numbness to it and that we should pull back a bit, before it gets boring.
 
freddielong said:
I am not going anywhere just saying I think the equipment shouldn't remove the skill, I believe we are at a point where modern equipment has a numbness to it and that we should pull back a bit, before it gets boring.
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Yes I personally much prefer playing blades, currently have the s3 pros in my bag, as I love the feedback but that's not to say I would want everyone to play them as the game is about enjoyment and plenty of people don't have time or the game to enjoy a bladed club. But if GI clubs where that easy to play everyone would be shooting in the 60/70's which is clearly not the case so plenty of skill is still required to shoot low scores with modern tech.
 
freddielong said:
Not struggling but making the game easier.
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Launch higher, land softer. Nothing to do with easier or not. In the main reason they exist is they create a better result. Landing on the green from a long distance.

Arguing that young people dumb things down is like saying old people like doing things in a worse way....

The human program is to better ones self... Do things better.
 
Alex1975 said:
Launch higher, land softer. Nothing to do with easier or not. In the main reason they exist is they create a better result. Landing on the green from a long distance.

Arguing that young people dumb things down is like saying old people like doing things in a worse way....

The human program is to better ones self... Do things better.
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Nice sentiment it would be lovely if it were true.
 
freddielong said:
Nice sentiment it would be lovely if it were true.
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Well it will be for some but it's pretty hard to lump the whole human race of an age bracket into one compartment.

I would say on the whole in the UK, the people I come across are people who want to move things forward. Focusing things a bit more, the young people I meet at our club are always quite impressive.
 
Alex1975 said:
Well it will be for some but it's pretty hard to lump the whole human race of an age bracket into one compartment.

I would say on the whole in the UK, the people I come across are people who want to move things forward. Focusing things a bit more, the young people I meet at our club are always quite impressive.
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Its human nature to design things/tools to make things easier, that in itself isn't a bad thing, but you see it in almost every walk of life skills and talents are being lost.
 
freddielong said:
Its human nature to design things/tools to make things easier, that in itself isn't a bad thing, but you see it in almost every walk of life skills and talents are being lost.
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Are those skills not made redundant by the new skills. Surly there is skill in the making of the things that make things "easier".

Is it Mormons that exist with no technology in the US? At what point did they decide that the use of the wheel was just enough tech but not too much?

At the end of the day I would think if the golf equipment rules were closed sooner and we all played with blades and wooden woods it would be just as popular or unpopular as it is now. We would play on shorter courses and shoot the same numbers.
 
I don't agree that hybrids dumb the game down or make it much easier than traditional irons.

Ultimately, you still have to swing the club and a bad swing still leads to a bad shot. Hybrids aren't a foolproof solution for a poor swing. As I play 3 in my present set I know this for a fact.
 
Alex1975 said:
Are those skills not made redundant by the new skills. Surly there is skill in the making of the things that make things "easier".

Is it Mormons that exist with no technology in the US? At what point did they decide that the use of the wheel was just enough tech but not too much?

At the end of the day I would think if the golf equipment rules were closed sooner and we all played with blades and wooden woods it would be just as popular or unpopular as it is now. We would play on shorter courses and shoot the same numbers.
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No it's not Mormons it the amish.

Not if the new skill requires less ability.
 
virtuocity said:
From practice, to hybrids, to Amish.

I do love a good GM winter.
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Next seasons pga tour :D
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bobmac said:
When I started playing golf, a set of irons were 3-SW
Nowadays, with people buying more hybrids and specialist wedges, is it likely manufacturers will end up selling just 4 irons in a set (6-9)?

I know people will buy whatever clubs makes golf easier and they haven't got time to practice so why bother.......just fill your bag full of hybrids and wedges and bingo, I'm your uncle.
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Yup, these tricked up wedges are a blight on the game! If you carry more than two its in the rules, but its kinda like cheating

Obviously not putting in the time to practice a 1/4, 1/2 or three quarter shot with PW & SW and just sticking some extra loft options in the bag, shame really but that's progress
 
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