6-9 irons

From my own perspecitve I can hit my irons reasonably well as well as a hybrid and so there's not an issue. I'd argue, and stand to be corrected that the design of a hybrid, irrespective of the marginal length increase, makes it easier for some to get the ball airborne

Let me clarify my point.

If you hit long irons fat, will it be different with ba hybrid?

If you thin your long irons, will it be different with a hybrid?

If you hook/slice your long irons will it be different with a hybrid?

I would wager not, hence my misunderstanding of the "easier to hit" comment?
 
Hybrids are easier to hit, no doubt. But for a reasonable ball striker are they easier to control. Personally I'd say no, I find I get far more control with a long iron.
Probably not an issue off the Tee, but a big asset on approach shots.



Would it be beneficial long term for a better player/good ball striker to learn to how to middle and control their long irons rather than 'copping out' with Hybrids?
 
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
Cant hit a long iron? Get a rescue or 3
Cant vary your shots with a PW? Get 4 more
Cant be bothered practicing ? No problem....full handicap.
GPS, lasers, wider fairways, bigger greens, bigger balls, 36 handicaps for men..........
Etc
 
Sorry but you haven't supplied any facts ?

Ok why we're they created? Why is the thread about iron sets being 6 -9 because they are easier to hit. The facts are there, in every magazine you read, think what you like but if you believe anything other than you are dumbing the game down then you are lying to yourself.
 
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
Cant hit a long iron? Get a rescue or 3
Cant vary your shots with a PW? Get 4 more
Cant be bothered practicing ? No problem....full handicap.
GPS, lasers, wider fairways, bigger greens, bigger balls, 36 handicaps for men..........
Etc

Or made more fun and accessible?

A lot of recreational golfers simply don't have the time to practice rather than your assumption that "they can't be bothered". Oh yes, and I use a mini driver because it's easier, goes nearly as far and is more successful for me, this making it more FUN. On my scorecard it doesn't say "uses blades and a 430cc tour edition driver"....
 
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
Cant hit a long iron? Get a rescue or 3
Cant vary your shots with a PW? Get 4 more
Cant be bothered practicing ? No problem....full handicap.
GPS, lasers, wider fairways, bigger greens, bigger balls, 36 handicaps for men..........
Etc

For a pro to post this is pretty sad Bob.

Golf is your livelihood but, in the grand scheme, you aren't very good at it. There are plenty who play for fun who have a knock once a week that'll kick your arse for you with or without shots.

Would you like it made easier for you! Perhaps YOU need to practice more?
 
What difference does that make? Hybrids being hook machines surely technique and not the stick?

If tour pros weren't struggling, surely they would all be using blades instead of cavity/GI irons?

As for the hooks, the 19° I carry is Jekyl and Hyde. Getting more Jekyl than Hyde of late but it (Hook/Hooking) a recurring comment people make when referencing hybrids and v why they can't get on with them.

I have no issue with people using them. No issue at all as I use one myself. It's the easier to hit comments I don't understand.
 
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
Cant hit a long iron? Get a rescue or 3
Cant vary your shots with a PW? Get 4 more
Cant be bothered practicing ? No problem....full handicap.
GPS, lasers, wider fairways, bigger greens, bigger balls, 36 handicaps for men..........
Etc

Totally agree Bob :thup:

"Rubbish a reading greens?? Well here's a Chart that'll do it for you and Take the fun out of it"
 
Ok why we're they created? Why is the thread about iron sets being 6 -9 because they are easier to hit. The facts are there, in every magazine you read, think what you like but if you believe anything other than you are dumbing the game down then you are lying to yourself.

Because they add some thing else to people's game

They give a different ball flight , allow people to shape a shot different , allow someone to use it on lies where it's tough for irons to be used

But it's not a fact to say they are easier to hit when I know people that can't hit one for toffee but can hit a 3 iron

Clubs are always changing as the game does
 
I think the game has been dumbed down.

Can't hit a 460 CC driver? Then get a 12 deg Mini driver with a shorter shaft
Cant hit a long iron? Get a rescue or 3
Cant vary your shots with a PW? Get 4 more
Cant be bothered practicing ? No problem....full handicap.
GPS, lasers, wider fairways, bigger greens, bigger balls, 36 handicaps for men..........
Etc

Absolutely agree give some of today's cat 1 golfers persimmon woods and a set of blades and the wouldn't break 90.
 
For a pro to post this is pretty sad Bob.

Golf is your livelihood but, in the grand scheme, you aren't very good at it. There are plenty who play for fun who have a knock once a week that'll kick your arse for you with or without shots.

Would you like it made easier for you! Perhaps YOU need to practice more?

Wow, what a totally disrespectful post 😳
 
If tour pros weren't struggling, surely they would all be using blades instead of cavity/GI irons?

I think you're a bit off on this one fella. I don't think they struggle, but use hybrids because they are easier to hit and more forgiving. For them, why take the chance?
 
Bob's stance seems a little strange. Isn't golf suppose to be inclusive and so using whatever it takes to make it fun and playable has to be a good thing doesn't it?

Why it's his opinion doesn't mean he agrees it's a bad thing.

I find it ridiculous that anyone who has played golf for say the last 2o years cannot see that it's a lot easier than it used to be.
 
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