clubchamp98
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Great goal.
2022 World Cup.
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What a goal????
PJ87
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Not at all. That's just the bias of people assuming Southgates football is pure negative
We weren't saying it Monday , he even went for it when 3-0 up he didn't just bring on defenders to see it out
At the euros we beat Germany, smashed up the Ukraine, then beat Denmark (who were playing for Ericson so were well up for it)
We then took the lead against Italy
Now in all those games we all felt pure joy no?
Some of England's best moments in our lifetimes?
We lost on pens. Hardly a battering aswell
PJ87
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Maybe he can't look past the ridiculous haircut that makes him look like Stan from eminem
Well, that is a fair point ?
PJ87
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That's one thing I will give Henderson, very very very respectable hair cut.
Swango1980
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On a plus note, makes the last round of games more interesting. It is in the hands of all 4 teams to qualify, whilst each team can also get eliminated
Great for the neutral ?
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Mate, Maddison won't play in this world cup.
Neither will TAA.
Expect the same starting XI against Wales.
Swango1980
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I suspect he'll start Foden at least. He usually reacts when public reaction tells him he is making a bit of a mess of it. Probably why he put Maddison is squad at all, although I agree it is unlikely he will play him
4LEX
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Maddison is crocked. He's only been doing light work on his own and hasn't taken part in any sessions with the squad.
You can't start in a must win World Cup game with little or no high intensity training for over 2 weeks. He's essentially a cheerleader who will only get any minutes if we get to the semi finals or final and suffer other injuries.
You can't start in a must win World Cup game with little or no high intensity training for over 2 weeks. He's essentially a cheerleader who will only get any minutes if we get to the semi finals or final and suffer other injuries.
PJ87
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Who would have gone instead of Madison realistically? I mean yes he is injured but we have a much bigger squad this time so is covered
Bowen was in but his form has been awful doesn't deserve it where as mad does .. least get him in and around the camp
4LEX
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Good question.
I would've taken another striker personally. I know Toney has trouble coming from the gambling issue but until he's found guilty he should've been in the squad. He offers something totally different to anyone else. The guy is a beast. His exclusion was Southgate playing politics and covering his own back, IMO.
PJ87
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I don't think it's so much playing politics it's more he is about to be banned I reckon the fa stepped in
He is looking at a serious ban, possible 2 years
I think Wilson is that option instead
Shame Sancho's form has dropped off a cliff
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I think i said earlier on that Maddison and TAA wont get a sniff.
Not using the squad will be Southgates downfall. 1st chance he gets to start Kalvin Phillips, whose played 54 mins all season, he'll take it.
Every team that have won the WC utilise their squad, not just the favourite 14.
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PJ87
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Was he poor? Yes at Middleborough he had a win % of 29% but he also attracted praise from one of the best managers in premier League history
In December 2007, Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger suggested Southgate as one of several English managers who were "all good enough" to manage the national team
He also that season took Middlesbrough out of the relegation zone to 13th , smashing city 8-1 on the final day . Biggest win in premier league for them
His u21 record is a win % of 73% that's not bad at all. How can that be bad? In any way shape or form. Bearing in mind the u21s often get robbed of talent if they are deemed good enough for the full team so can't always get a core group of players
His England record is 60% win rate
Euro final.. our first manager final since 1966
He may be boring but he is by no means a poor manager.
The squad has to be used, if not what's the point.
On another note on the squad, players are training and playing in extreme temperature's which surely is going to have an effect on their work effort with games so close together, that's another reason to rotate.
England have one of the best squads, especially attacking options, the wrong man is in charge of the team in my opinion.
He doesn't let the players play with any sort of freedom.
4LEX
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It depends on the nature of the bets. It is a bit of a mess but if Southgate wanted him, he'd be there. The fact he's jam packed the squad with midfielders is a mistake.
It's a shame about Sancho and Bowen. I'd rather one of them over a known injured player. I also wonder if Maddison knew he was badly injured and kept quiet to be part of the squad, which has come to light and angered Southgate.
Swango1980
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Virtually all football managers say very nice things about other football managers, so I would read nothing into what Wenger said.
Did Southgate get sacked from Middlesbrough?
Even poor managers will have good results from time to time. Doesn't make them great managers.
I've no idea what a typical win rate is for England. But, given most of their games are against poor sides, I'd almost imagine at least 50% of games should be an easy win? For example, surely even any of us on this forum could manage to get a win if we managed England versus the likes of San Marino?
PJ87
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How many great managers have been sacked over the years?
Jose , very good manager. Been sacked a few times
Raneri sacked by Chelsea , went on to win the title
He took over Middlesbrough from Steve McLaren when he went to manage England. It was his first gig and had to come with some talent leaving the club like Jimmy Floyd. .
He is no where near as bad as people make out
He was a pen shoot out away from being a national hero
