Steve Wilkes
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No you are inside the relief area, but in front of the tee-peg, have you never marked out you 1 club in a direction away from the hole?
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Whereditgo
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It's very difficult to tell the angles from where the camera is situated, but it looks to me as though the right hand club length at 90 deg to the direction of play would be on the path, therefore anything on the grass between the two tee pegs would be a legitimate drop and the rules official was standing right next to him when he carried out the whole marking and dropping procedure.
upsidedown
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Yes I've dropped away from the hole but I've always marked it out as per the diagram in the link ?
upsidedown
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Yes it is and just as Reed drops the ball the ref gets in the way.
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Never ceases to amaze me, the number of "armchair" referees who seem to have a better judgement of these situations than the on site official.
upsidedown
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Nor me and I generally don't get involved in these kind of discussions and having viewed the footage again i can see how he might have measured with the driver at an angle that is not 90 degrees to the direction of play and then when the ball ends up in front of the tee peg it's still inside the relief area . I showed the clip to SM and she immediately said he needs to drop that again as the balls has gone forward of the tee peg.
I have the upmost respect for the referee's and fully appreciate the work and time they put in to be qualified to officiate at such a high level as I play regularly with a "England referee" and always enjoy our discussions on the rules as this way this evening.
Sports_Fanatic
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Reed announced to his playing partners that he was going to check it way before calling the rules official. None of them came over to check, so presumably that’s because they didn’t feel he was pulling a fast one based on that logic so also fine?
Did laugh, announced today (4 days later) that “apparently” one of the marshalls trod on Rory’s ball hence why he thought embedded. I like Rory a lot but that’s just the tour offering protection, no way that takes four days to come out and isn’t rectified at the time.
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Apologies if already stated:
Apparently someone stood on Rory’s ball - he received an email from the tour stating that someone had come forward to say they’d walked in his ball, hence it being embedded.
Apparently someone stood on Rory’s ball - he received an email from the tour stating that someone had come forward to say they’d walked in his ball, hence it being embedded.
Orikoru
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Probably Reed who did that as well.
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Deleted member 3432
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I am right in thinking European Tour entry lists are based on 2019 rankings?
It appears that those who graduated onto tour last season and have improved their ranking postion over the course of the 2020 season are been penalised and not getting entry into the current events...
It appears that those who graduated onto tour last season and have improved their ranking postion over the course of the 2020 season are been penalised and not getting entry into the current events...
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I know the guys that qualified for 2000 from Challenge Tour and ET qualfiying kept their exemptions through to this season as well
Today is Phoenixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Apparently letting 5k spectators in. It wont be the same but it is still a fun tournament. Oh, and it will be blue skies and sunny
. Apparently letting 5k spectators in. It wont be the same but it is still a fun tournament. Oh, and it will be blue skies and sunny
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Going back 20 years is some exemption....
At the same time some of these guys who finished top 60 last year for example are not getting into events and guys who had a shocker last year and would have lost their cards under normal circumstances are getting entry into events.
There was enough played last year surely that the end of season rankings should have counted for something.
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Think what it must be like on the fringes the Tour in America where a similar situation exists regarding previous standings.Going back 20 years is some exemption....
At the same time some of these guys who finished top 60 last year for example are not getting into events and guys who had a shocker last year and would have lost their cards under normal circumstances are getting entry into events.
There was enough played last year surely that the end of season rankings should have counted for something.
I understand that they are now having pre-qualifying for the Monday qualifier such is the demand for spaces.?
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Going back 20 years is some exemption....
At the same time some of these guys who finished top 60 last year for example are not getting into events and guys who had a shocker last year and would have lost their cards under normal circumstances are getting entry into events.
There was enough played last year surely that the end of season rankings should have counted for something.
They were all informed middle of last season I believe it was , swings and roundabouts, some benefit from it and some will be punished.
It was a strange season last with a lot of changes and events lost etc so I guess it was only going to be one choice they had
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Had to do something I guess but its kept a few journeymen who were in decline on tour for another year and depriving younger talent of starts.
Sports_Fanatic
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Just watching the pga tour live and commentator has called the marshalls at Waste Management the "thunderbirds" twice. Please tell me I'm hearing this wrong and that they haven't decided to rename their marshalls
It's Phoenix. Anything goes at this tournamentJust watching the pga tour live and commentator has called the marshalls at Waste Management the "thunderbirds" twice. Please tell me I'm hearing this wrong and that they haven't decided to rename their marshalls
.Far better than 'patrons' anyway.
YandaB
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I don't think that they have renamed them all but some of them are part of a charitable organisation called the Thunderbirds: https://wmphoenixopen.com/more-about-the-thunderbirds/Just watching the pga tour live and commentator has called the marshalls at Waste Management the "thunderbirds" twice. Please tell me I'm hearing this wrong and that they haven't decided to rename their marshalls
Slime
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Today is Phoenixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
................. and Rory starts with a double on the 1st!
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